On 0, Jason Lim <maillist@jasonlim.com> wrote: [snip] > Blah... somehow I don't think this is going anywhere. USA and western > spammers will continue to find fault in chinese networks and servers to > kingdom come. Perhaps the chinese admins should block USA mail traffic > altogether so USA and western spammers can no longer abuse chinese > networks. What say? Pardon me if I've got this wrong, but... isn't that _precisely_ what people have been saying should happen??? We are waiting for sysadmins to stop relaying spam, and stop harboring spammers, so they can be taken off black lists. But for some reason when it comes to it you don't think this is a good idea, you think they should just be allowed to go on anyway. We try to help with the problem by forwarding spam to the relevant ISPs, and *we* are told that we are unhelpful because we don't speak Chinese. This is unimaginably arrogant; we are not the problem, the open relays and spammers are the problem. Despite your claims to the contrary, English *is* the language used by the vast majority of Internet users. English is also a *far* more widespread language than Chinese. As for spoken langauge, my understanding is that there is no single Chinese language, but that China is splintered into various language groups that are largely incompatible. Even for written language there are any number of "minority languages" used on the Internet. Should we be required to learn each of those just so that we can report spammers to sysadmins who have a track record of ignoring such reports anyway? Why shouldn't we use the de facto standard language of the Internet, English? I don't mean by this that only English should be allowed on the Internet, but that to require people to learn another language so that they can be *of service* to someone else by reporting spammers is just a bit over the top. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au
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