woody is so full of OLD stuff
A> Try aptitude instead of dselect; it doesn't have many of its
A> problems. It's IMHO much better, and it is the new "standard"
A> package managing tool.
ok, if it is so standard then it should be installed by default in the
tasksel phase. no mention of it is made from the time we pop in the
first CD thru the final "have fun" message.
My first impression of debian, woody, is: gee, they sure like giving
you old defaults:
emacs20. want emacs 21 then install it yourself. should be the other
way around.
I mean you guys are GNU/Linux, right? Well, isn't it misrepresenting
"GNU" if you are two to several years behind GNU?
awk is 1996 mawk. try awk --help, awk --version: cold and
unresponsive. If you want that info see the man page. unless users
install gawk themselves then Aaron's years of gawk effort are
irrelevant. Here you are six years behind GNU.
Anyway that's what I discovered after one day. Is that what you
seasoned pros really use every day or is that some kind of bare bones
setup that "everybody customizes anyway unless they are just using the
machine to run apache".
Is the reason why gawk is ignored is that it will break some
important script and I'll be sorry?
Is the rest of woody like this, every default 2 years cautiously in
the past, or did I just bump into some unrepresentative cases?
I mean I wanted to pop in the CDs and be taken to a new plateau of
free software computing. I wanted to be in with the in crowd. Did I
miss some "new, please" button during installation? I saw a question
about a 2.4 kernel, something that is above most of my head. It told
me it was for risk takers so I said no. I didn't see other questions
about "do you want years old this and that"?
I'm not saying to force the user to use 100% of you pros' daily
environment. I'm just saying if there is already an _official
release_ of something, and you are giving the user an old version upon
debian installation without getting the users' conscious approval,
then aren't you misrepresenting the GNU label that I see pasted
everywhere? (oops, this isn't a debian official release itself).
That and of course making the user feel that he must have made a
mistake somewhere. "was it a skipped [Y]n? Was it wrong advice at
the LUG meeting? Did I download the wrong CD set?"
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