Re: Serious "Bug" in most major Linux distros.
On Thu, 23 May 2002, Petro wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 01:04:17PM -0400, Rob Ransbottom wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Petro wrote:
> >
> > Even then I ask: You _want_ to keep your users going when your shared
> > libs are flakey???
>
> I don't have "users" in the normal sense. I run clusters of web and
> database servers,
A distinction without difference here.
> things that are hard to keep backed up 100%.
> I do have a few users, but they are mostly developers, and on their
> staging and dev boxes it might be necessary at some point to get in
> and recovery certain bits.
> But it's not just about *me*, I can, because of the resources I have
> available to me in a medium sized installation (currently around 100
> servers) take a box down and replace it with another one until I
> have time to get down the colo and do things some other way.
>
> Not everyone has this luxury.
This is not clear to me. I get out of this that you are scratching
at an itch which isn't yours.
> > Shared libs could implement a load_all_required_functions routine.
> > This would let a program getuid and act like it had static libs.
>
> This sounds more complex, and unnecessary complexity is not a good
> thing.
Actually this would simplify things -- most problems (discounting bugs)
with libs have to do with mismatching and lacking libs. Of course
it is an evolutionary solution, that is appealing when broadly accepted.
I doubt much need is seen.
What problem are you having or foreseeing? Don't waste time
on problems you don't have. How can we help?
> > I just keep a rescue partition loaded with debian-base. This
> > has lots of benefits. And having your normal root environment is
> > nice in stressful situations.
>
> That isn't a bad idea.
It is even better than not bad. You may have an even smaller
rescue/boot partition that simply serves out its filesystems.
> My last cigarette was roughly 31 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes ago.
The traces of habitual patterns should vanish in a year or so.
Then it becomes easy. Good going, and good luck going forward.
> YHBW
YHBW?
rob Live the dream.
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