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Re: [Fwd: Q's on backup to CD-R] - fun stuff




hi ya


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, DSC Siltec wrote:

> DSC Siltec wrote:
>  
>  Ross Boylan wrote:
> 
>  >
>  > I'm trying to do a fairly comprehensive system backup to CD-R.  The
>  > amount I have to backup is much larger than the free space on the
>  > system, which in turn is larger than a CD-R.
>  >

thats when the fun starts .... to backup 100Gb or more...
and they dont wanna lose data... ( terabytes of data )

- to have some degree of certainty that data is not lost...
	- you must be able to recreate a full backup....multiple ways...

- if you lose your "full backup"...
	- you can recreate it with monthly backups spanning 180 days ??
	- you can recreate it with weekly backups spanning 90 days ??
		( any loss of a weeks of data is not that bad as long
		( as the subsequent week picks up previous weeks data

	- you can recreate it with daily backups spanning 14 days ??
		( lost any one or few days of data.. and you wont care 
		( except yesterday data myst be intact.. which is why
		( you're looking at the backups anyway

- daily backups shaould always start from the day before full backups was 
  done ....

if full backup went bad...
	( bad network, disks full, bad tape... etc... you must be able
	to recover yesterdays files or any day where full backup died

a typical 100GB disk can hold about 2 months of full backups...
	( typical mix of user data ... 
	( but if the data is 100% jpegs and mpegs... 
	( than compression isnt gonna help any

- all that can be done with one backup script w/ "-mtime option"...
	- instant ( -- use disk mirroring -- )
	- hourly  ( find /etc /home -mmin -24 )  ( 24 hrs )
	- daily   ( find /etc /home -mtime -7 )  ( 7 days )
	- weekly  ( find /etc /home -mtime -30 )
	- monthly ( find /etc /home -mtime -180 )

- problem with mirroring...
	- if you or your friendly ( [cr/h]acker ) erases foo  on /dev/md0
	... than its gone from all your other mirrors too...

	- mirroring is good..when done right...

c ya
alvin
http://www.Linux-Backup.net 


>  Just a thought -- I have heard that CD-Rs have a 1-bit per 100kB error
>  rate in 1 year.  What that means is that in your typical 1-Meg program,
>  backed up to CD-R, you're not going to be able to use it after about a
>  year.
>  
>  So CD-R would *only* be useful for short term backup, or if there were
>  multiple copies of the same program.

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