ok I was told sendmail was too complicated then I was told to install ssmtp, I did The guy asked me to test it using mail ....... I don't have mail!!! I don't see a mail package under debain, I can only see MTA's and mail readers when I look through the packages file where do I get the mail command from? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com