alsa: cannot stop (unload modules)

[Erik Steffl <steffl@bigfoot.com>]

  since certain time (months ago) the alsa modules cannot be unloaded, I
tried /etc/alsa/stop and also directly using rmmod, nothing helps.

  If there is some process that has one of the sound devices open the
alsa stop complains. However even after I close these programs alsa
cannot be stopped - it does not complain anymore but all modules remain
loaded.

  relevant system components:

  soundblaster 64 awe
  uname -a: Linux jojda 2.4.10 #1 Tue Oct 9 00:14:15 PDT 2001 i686
unknown

  ii  alsa-source    0.9+0beta7-2   ALSA driver source
  ii  kernel-image-2 jojda.0        Linux kernel binary image for
version 2.4.10

  however it's 0.9+beta7-1 that I cannot unload (I just installed *-2).

  rmmod does not have any effect but it does not complain either, here's
the demo of how it works (along with the list of modules currently
loaded):

jojda:/usr/src# rmmod -v snd-mixer-oss
Checking snd-mixer-oss for persistent data
jojda:/usr/src# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd-mixer-oss           8864   0  (autoclean)
snd-card-sbawe          5856   0  (autoclean)
snd-sb16-dsp            5120   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe]
snd-pcm                43872   0  (autoclean) [snd-sb16-dsp]
snd-sb16-csp           15200   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe]
snd-sb-common           5848   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe
snd-sb16-dsp snd-sb16-csp]
snd-opl3                5120   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe]
snd-hwdep               3584   0  (autoclean) [snd-sb16-csp snd-opl3]
snd-emu8000            10336   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe]
snd-mpu401-uart         2480   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe
snd-sb16-dsp]
snd-rawmidi            11392   0  (autoclean) [snd-mpu401-uart]
smbfs                  31008   1  (autoclean)
tdfx                   34968   1 
ipt_MASQUERADE          1216   1  (autoclean)
iptable_nat            12436   0  (autoclean) [ipt_MASQUERADE]
ip_conntrack           12780   1  (autoclean) [ipt_MASQUERADE
iptable_nat]
parport_pc             13796   1  (autoclean)
lp                      5888   0  (autoclean)
parport                23808   1  (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
snd-seq                37200   2 
snd-timer               9184   0  [snd-pcm snd-opl3 snd-seq]
snd-seq-device          3760   0  [snd-opl3 snd-emu8000 snd-rawmidi
snd-seq]
snd                    22952   3  [snd-mixer-oss snd-card-sbawe
snd-sb16-dsp snd-pcm snd-sb16-csp snd-sb-common snd-opl3 snd-hwdep
snd-emu8000 snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq snd-timer
snd-seq-device]
soundcore               3268   4  [snd]
8139too                11680   2  (autoclean)
nls_cp437               4384   3  (autoclean)
vfat                    8380   1  (autoclean)
fat                    28856   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
serial                 44704   0  (autoclean)
isa-pnp                26920   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-sbawe serial]
ip_tables              10304   4  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat]
unix                   13700 163  (autoclean)
jojda:/usr/src# 

  (funny thing is that alsamixer does not work right now, gmix (oss
emulation) works, xmms (oss emulation) works, pmidi cannot open
sequencer, etc...)

  I didn't any bug that looks related to this problem (checked bugs for
alsa-source and alsa-modules)

  any ideas? TIA

	erik