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Re: Takin' the plunge...



tony, wayne:

for what it's worth, adsl is, imo, much easier than ppp(oe). basically, set 
up your workstation just like it's on a local network. i will have to look at 
my debian machine at work to give you the exact files to place your ip 
information. once you have that, you are home free.

i am running at home with a "speedstream 5260 ethernet adsl modem" with no 
problems. my former ip (verio) and current ip (speakeasy) had no problems 
with the way i'm set up. my home machine is rh7.1, hence i cannot tell you 
all the files that need to be changed! maybe someone will jump in with the 
particular files...otherwise, i will add them in the morning from work. so 
for now, on redhat:

1) /etc/resolve.conf
2) /etc/sysconfig/network
3) /etc/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth?
4) /etc/sysconfig/ipchains

1. this contains the dns info
2. this has your gateway, hostname, ethernet card, etc
3. contains your ip address, broadcast, network ip, netmask
4. finally (very important, especially for always connected clients), the 
firewall rules. this is, for me, the most difficult part, and essential, 
regardless of ppp(oe) or standard network setup.

if you need some further assist with the particular files, please let me know 
at this address and/or abest@rl76065.cup.hp.com.

On Wednesday 10 October 2001 17:28, Anthony and Mary Ann Tantillo pronounced:
> Actually, I got Earthlink/DSL to work with the pppoe distributed with
> 2.2r3 (potato) and the testing (woody) distributions using the standard
> 2.2.19pre17 kernel that installed from the CD.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 07:06:50PM +0100, Wayne Brown wrote:
> > on 10th Oct Royce Bell wrote
> >  
> > > Sheesh, you guys are scaring the pants off me!  Or, maybe I'm 
> > > just getting
> > > to old to go about things like I did 30 years ago...hmmm?  
> > > Actually, I'm not
> > > so scared as I am overwhelmed at how much I have forgotten 
> > > over the years of
> > > DOS/Windows immersion (I'd transliterate that as "baptism," but the
> > > scriptural import of that term implies newness, regeneration, 
> > > and Heaven:
> > > All terms that seem quite inappropriate in the context of BSOD).
> > > 
> > > A number of you have posted me directly with a recommendation 
> > > of Libranet as
> > > a good starting point, while still maintaining the Debian 
> > > relationship.  A
> > > couple of you guys (any gurls here?)  warned that I would not 
> > > be happy with
> > > Libranet.  Am I correct in understanding Libranet IS Debian 
> > > with simplified
> > > installation/management?  And, are there limitations to 
> > > Libranet that I need
> > > to know going in?  Are there benefits to the Debian distro 
> > > directly, and
> > > what are they?  At this point, I'm not so sure I'm interested 
> > > in a plethora
> > > of configuration options, so much as a clean and stable 
> > > install that will
> > > let me get the system up, running StarOffice or some other suite
> > > (suggestions?), connected to my Earthlink/DSL account, and printing.
> > 
> > IMHO Mandrake 8.0 would be a good starter for ease of configuration and
> > getting the system up. However you will not learn as much as you will from
> > using Debian. There is a steep learning curve and a fair bit of reading 
and
> > configuration to be done with Debian but ultimately you will have a system
> > the way you want it AND know what is happening "under the hood".
> > 
> > Debian has an excellent package management system which handles 
dependencies
> > for you, so you choose to install gizmo x, Debian tells you what library
> > files are needed and selects them for you. Compared to the RPM system, 
this
> > is a real boon (IMHO)
> > 
> > I noticed you are on DSL, is that cable or ADSL? both are possible through
> > Linux but require work. Cable is easier because connecting via a standard
> > network card. ADSL is trickier, maybe others reading could give their
> > opinion on this. I am not sure if the standard kernel supplied supports
> > PPPoe (PPP over ethernet) and wether you will need to recompile the 
kernel.
> > Certain distro's (I think Mandrake 8.0 and Suse 7.2 does as standard)
> > 
> > > 
> > > Also, I'm not sure I am understanding some terms you guys are 
> > > using that
> > > seem to me to be synonymous, eg. windowsmanager and shell, etc.
> > > 
> > > One other thought: I am leaning toward doing the GNU/Linux 
> > > install on two
> > > machines, concurrently.  One as the productivity machine, and 
> > > the other to
> > > make parallel installs AND configuration changes or new 
> > > installs before they
> > > go on the productivity machine, just to be sure I don't burn 
> > > the bridge  (do
> > > I have to buy TWO licenses for that, Bill?  Just joking).  
> > > Boy, parallel
> > > install brings back memories of "how we used to do it."  
> > > Matter of fact,
> > > that's how I first "broke" my Microsoft license agreement, not taking
> > > chances on the woeful frustrations of "fix one problem, 
> > > create ten more" of
> > > Microsoft releases with my system that was required to get 
> > > the work out.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > For the ultimate in safety doing the above is a good idea, personally I 
have
> > found Debian to be rock solid, "the business" as it were. Occasionally I 
may
> > get a minor problem with a package but nothing serious (yet!)
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Wayne.
> > 
> > 

-- 
regards,
allen wayne best, esq
"your friendly neighborhood rambler owner"
"my rambler will go from 0 to 105"
Current date: 42:17:19::282:2001

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