On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 11:40:57 BST, Alex Hunsley writes:
<from a non-faked address, indeed>
>Robert Waldner wrote:
>> And for seeSigForAddress@privacy.com: well, you obviously need a more
>> reliable way to bloody *always* include your .sig... Btw, is
>> privacy.com your domain or are you affiliated? I'd guess no, and they
>> probably be won't be too happy about you forging an address of theirs,
>> what with them having to handle all the bounces and such...
>> I own a
>> domain which is a target for such utterly clue- and witless fraud
>> myself and have actually *sued* someone for forging addresses, y'know.
>
>This is getting too personal and unpleasant and so this is the point
>where I unsubscribe.
Why? I didn't say (or mean!) to sue _you_. (I wouldn't be entitled to
do, you're not trespassing (sp?) on my rights here).
And for unsubscribing here:
- I'm only one person, if you have problems with me, say so, I'll just
do the equivalent of killfiling you.
- if you use debian, it's probably a quite good idea to participate here
- as for unpleasant: that's just life, I'm afraid.
>Robert, chill the fsck out. I'm not saying don't point these things out,
>just watch the vitriol.
And I thought I'd watched my temper.
Ok, maybe I overreacted. `xcuse, please.
But maybe a little discussion of /why/ faking otherwise valid addresses
is a Very Bad Idea.
Let me tell you a story, just because I know this very example best:
I own/have a domain. There is the possibility in local slang to read it
as "didn't do it". So, some (IMO) morons come and put something like
"I@didn't do it" in web-forms, using "Rob@didn't do it" as faked
email-addresses and such. At one point I had to handle approx. 40 mails
each day (not really counting spam, I've got pretty effective filters
there) per *day*. But I never knew who was using my address
("Robert@didn't do it" in that case). S/he did a pretty effective job
of only using a certain, very abuse-wise unresponsive ISP. But one day,
after about a year, s/he made a mistake. Even from the same country as
I am, used the address via a local ISP. So what should I have done? I
filed a proper complaint (which is equivalent to fraud), and s/he got
fined. That's fine with me, s/he was harrassing me for almost a year.
And cost me money, I pay for my traffic.
So my opinion is: if you really think it's effective to use a fake
address (I doubt that), please make sure that you don't simply
put the load on someone else.
cheers,
&rw
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