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Re: [users] Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!



On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 04:43:32PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> I agree with you 100% -- except you left out a few points which explain how
> they made the decision.
> 
> a) there are 3 established dists that use rpm plus numerous small ones

so?  *ALL* dists include ar, tar and gzip. 

> b) most proprietary software, if released for linux, is released as rpms already

so?

> c) tied to b) companies like to deal with companies, RH provides this
> d) as part of a) there are like 3 (maybe as high as 6 or more) to 1 more people
> using rpm than deb

these are not good reasons.  proprietary software developers from what
ive seen make the WORST packages of anyone, even the crap you find in
/contrib directories.  LSB would have been far better off defining
.tar.gz as the package format, and that proprietary crap go in its own
directory in /opt.  since proprietary developers never even come close
to following any sort of filesystem standard keeping them in a self
contained mess is the only sensible thing to do. 

> yes we all dislike rpm for our own reasons.  however the decision that the lsb
> made does make sense.  The lsb is not meant to help you or me.  It is meant to
> help companies support linux.  companies understand RH and rpm better than they
> do debian.  Other than Progeny I can not name any company that supports Debian
> today.  Do a quick count of the ones that support RH or RH based dists (plus
> SuSE and its bastard rpms).

and none of this is any reason for us to abandon our packaging system,
we should provide alien as always and ignore this.  

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/

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