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Re: An *idea* that *might* put Debian on top (?)



Jack,

In my last mail i battered your idea a bit (may-b too hard), so time to type
some constructive things.
Perhaps we should look in this direction:

1. Get a simple installer to get linux running (as generic as possible, but
including a webbrowser like lynx)
2. Guide the user on it's way to the internet (ppp+pap is almost standard)
3. Connet to the web and collect/compile config files from a jet-to-create
repository

My thinking:

Point 1: In most cases it is easy to get Linux up and running. Linux may not
support all of your hardware but id shoud work in text mode.
Point 2: Getting on-line will be the most difficult part. But there is good
hope here ppp+pap is almost standard for normal modems and Cable / ADSL use
PPPoE or Ethernet for the most part. For these all one needs to to is get
DHCP working and youre ready-to-go.
Point 3: Collecting and Compiling config files. I'll explain using 2
examples.
First: Compiling X config
* Identify your monitor (mode lines mostly)
* Identify graphics board (resolutions, refreshrates, colors, 'weird'
options)
* Identify keyboard and mouse
* Compile all bits to a single X Config file
Compiling is better than having a zillion config files for say a G400 and
several monitors. Lots better to seperate em.
This config database could be stored at XFree86.org (They at least know a
lot about hardware)
Second: Getting a config file
* Simple stuff like the keyboard map for your type of keyboard

I would not go for a real p2p network. It has loads of difficulties that are
yet unsolved (How to find it w.o. a central starting point, users going on
and off-line, The possibilities of sabotage, i can go on for a while here)
Also a nice web interface could be created so you can get your config files
in advance (by using a computer with internet connection) if you know your
hardware.

There will be a lot of thinking to do before anything like this (or your
original p2p idea) can work at all. But it has potential.

Yours,
Nico de Haer

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Pryne <jianju@hotmail.com>
To: <nicodehaer@yahoo.com>; <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: An *idea* that *might* put Debian on top (?)


> No, Windows was just an example of an OS that people might want to migrate
> *away* from. There's no reason why someone running Linux, indeed Debian,
> could not run the same application. Even existing users of Debian could
> benefit from this by getting support from the community. More vital is the
> contribution existing users would make by offering their smoothly running
> system information as a reference in guiding new users to stability and
> functionality under Debian!
>
> Believe me, I'd never require anybody to be using MS products. ;)
>
> Jack
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