Re: Are you guys sure about that?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:24:54PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:
> That's actually a common misconception. I can't believe I'm defending
> redhat, but the up2date tool has been around since 6.1, and it doesn't
> cost anything. What does cost money is priority ftp access, without
> which you'll be hard-pressed to find a mirror that isn't overloaded
> anytime other than the wee hours of the morning.
>
> That said, up2date is *nothing* like apt. All it does it update rpms
> that you already have installed with security fixes. There is no
> capability in it to automagically install packages ala apt, nor is there
> no upgrade to later version option either (which debian offers through
> testing and unstable). up2date is also a pretty big resource hog for
> just being an updater. It also makes remote updating virtually
> impossible over a slow link, as AFAIK, it is a GUI (X) only tool.
Get out of X and run it. It's also a command-line tool.
I'm forced to use it at work and we do not pay for any kind of support
nor do we run X on any of the servers.
> All in all, I wasn't very impressed with it, other distributions have
> had similar tools for a few years now (MandrakeUpdate comes to mind),
> and none of them come close the capability of apt. As to security, it's
> not just tools. Debian has a pretty good record of responding to
> security holes extremely quickly, while Redhat can somtimes (not always)
> drag their feet a bit. Debian also sets you up *much* more secure by
> default than Redhat, which last time I installed 7, managed to installed
> every service that existed by default (tftp even!).
I'm not impressed with up2date either, but it's better than having
insecure machines.
My biggest beef with it is that I have to have all sorts of Python
run-time crap on my production machines for no other reason than to
support that silly script. It should have been a binary.
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Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com>
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