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Re: Window Manager trouble/Thanks



OK,

Here is what I get when I try to start WindowMaker into a vanilla X
display:

install: cannot stat `/etc/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker': No such file or directory

And indeed, there is no such file there. Which says to me that something
is wrong with the wmaker installation; however, I have done apt-get remove
on wmaker a few times, and nothing has changed. Weird.

fvwm is no longer a problem because there was just an upgrade in testing
and the new package works ok. sawmill I may just have to live without.

G
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// G l e n n  B e c k e r                                                |
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At 2:02pm on Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:

> Glenn Becker wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Excuse my continuing X density. :-) When I run plain X from root, I get a
> > grey screen and X cursor -- which moves fine -- but nothing else. Either
> > a) I just don't know how to pop up a console window from this bare
> > display, or b) I should be getting more than this, and this is a clue to
> > whatever's wrong. I have included an X.err file below ... it records me
> > starting plain X up from root, then CTRL-ALT-BKSPing to down it.
> 
>   you're on a good way. you can use ctrl-alt-Fn (n is 1 - 6, usually) to
> go back to one of the virtual consoles, from there run fvwm -display :0,
> you can run any X client like this so if fvwm does not run, try xterm,
> it should work. now you can try to run various window managers from
> command line to see what error messages you get.
> 
>   if you do not know how to run the window manager, check it's menu file
> like this (you need to know the name of the package):
> 
> dpkg -L fvwm|grep menu
> /usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples/post-hook.menu-form-exit
> /usr/lib/menu
> /usr/lib/menu/fvwm
> /etc/menu-methods
> /etc/menu-methods/fvwm
> 
>   the interesting one is /usr/lib/menu/fvwm:
> 
> ...
> ?package(fvwm):\
>   needs=wm\
>   section=WindowManagers\
>   title="Fvwm"\
>   longtitle="FVWM Windows manager (version 2.xx)"\
>   command="/usr/bin/X11/fvwm2"
> ...
> 
>   so you would use following commandline to run it:
> 
> /usr/bin/X11/fvwm2 -display :0
> 
>   see if you get any error message, if not, switch to X server vt
> (ctrl-F7 for :0, ctrl-F8 for :1, usually)
> 
>   you can try all window managers like this, one after another (you
> cannot run more than one at a time)
> 
> 
> > Second, of the WMs I have installed, here is a breakdown of what works and
> > what doesn't -- thought there might be some common gnd between the members
> > of each set that would provide a clue:
> > 
> > Works: Enlightenment, icewm, blackbox, twm, AfterStep Classic
> > 
> > Doesn't Work: wmaker, fvwm, sawmill
> > 
> > I'm most interested in this phenom as a sign of something larger wrong
> > with my system. How can a bloated beast like Enlightenment run
> > flawlessly when those others don't? WMaker is my favorite WM but I suppose
> > I can learn to live w/o it ... but what is happening here? And why
> > *should* I live w/o WMaker ... if I don't want to? :-)
> 
>   try the method above, you should see the error messages.
> 
> > Here is the X.err file:
> > 
> > XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window System
> > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
> > Release Date: 18 December 2000
> >         If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> >         newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> >         reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> > Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF]
> > Module Loader present
> > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sat Feb  3 06:56:34 2001
> > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
> > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> >          (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> >          (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
> > (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
> > (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
> > (**) |   |-->Monitor "NEC"
> > (**) |   |-->Device "Voodoo3 (generic)"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
> > (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
> > (**) XKB: model: "pc101"
> > (**) XKB: layout: "us"
> > (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> > (--) using VT number 7
> > 
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
> > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
> > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> > (--) PCI:*(0:14:0) 3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3 rev 1, Mem @ 0xf4000000/25, 0xfc000000/25, I/O @ 0x1000/8
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
> > (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
> > (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
> > (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
> > (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.1.8
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o
> > (II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
> > (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee,
> >         3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5
> > (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> > (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo3 found
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
> > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
> > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board (through the int10 interface).
> > (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
> > (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board succeeded.
> > (**) TDFX(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
> > (==) TDFX(0): RGB weight 565
> > (==) TDFX(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> > (--) TDFX(0): Chipset: "3dfx Voodoo3"
> > (--) TDFX(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFC000000
> > (--) TDFX(0): MMIO registers at addr 0xF4000000
> > (--) TDFX(0): PIO registers at addr 0x1000
> > (--) TDFX(0): VideoRAM: 16384 kByte Mapping 32768 kByte
> > (==) TDFX(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> > (II) TDFX(0): NEC: Using hsync value of 31.50 kHz
> > (II) TDFX(0): NEC: Using hsync value of 35.15 kHz
> > (II) TDFX(0): NEC: Using hsync value of 35.50 kHz
> > (II) TDFX(0): NEC: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-90.00 Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): Clock range:  12.00 to 300.00 MHz
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "640x350" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "640x400" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "720x400" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1152x864" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (hsync out of range)
> > (WW) TDFX(0): Mode "1024x768" deleted (no mode of this name)
> > (--) TDFX(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800)
> > (**) TDFX(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz
> > (==) TDFX(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a
> > (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a
> > (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a
> > (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
> > (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a
> > (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> >         compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) TDFX(0): initializing int10
> > (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
> > (II) TDFX(0): VESA BIOS detected
> > (II) TDFX(0): VESA VBE DDC supported
> > (II) TDFX(0): Manufacturer: NEC  Model: 1d4d  Serial#: 16843009
> > (II) TDFX(0): Year: 1998  Week: 32
> > (II) TDFX(0): EDID Version: 1.1
> > (II) TDFX(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V
> > (II) TDFX(0): Sync:  Separate  Composite
> > (II) TDFX(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 28  vert.: 21
> > (II) TDFX(0): Gamma: 2.20
> > (II) TDFX(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
> > (II) TDFX(0): redX: 0.632 redY: 0.335   greenX: 0.295 greenY: 0.593
> > (II) TDFX(0): blueX: 0.143 blueY: 0.066   whiteX: 0.281 whiteY: 0.311
> > (II) TDFX(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
> > (II) TDFX(0): 720x400@70Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 720x400@88Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 640x480@60Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 640x480@67Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 640x480@72Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 640x480@75Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 800x600@56Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 800x600@60Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 800x600@72Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 800x600@75Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 832x624@75Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 1024x768@60Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 1024x768@70Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): 1024x768@75Hz
> > (II) TDFX(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
> > (II) TDFX(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
> > (II) TDFX(0): #0: hsize: 640  vsize 480  refresh: 85  vid: 22833
> > (II) TDFX(0): #1: hsize: 800  vsize 600  refresh: 85  vid: 22853
> > (II) TDFX(0): #2: hsize: 1024  vsize 768  refresh: 85  vid: 22881
> > (II) TDFX(0): #3: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 70  vid: 19057
> > (II) TDFX(0): #4: hsize: 1280  vsize 960  refresh: 60  vid: 16513
> > (II) TDFX(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
> > (II) TDFX(0): clock: 108.0 MHz   Image Size:  270 x 203 mm
> > (II) TDFX(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1328  h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0
> > (II) TDFX(0): v_active: 1024  v_sync: 1025  v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0
> > (II) TDFX(0): Ranges: V min: 55  V max: 120 Hz, H min: 31  H max: 69 kHz, PixClock max 110 kHz
> > (II) TDFX(0): Monitor name: MultiSync 50
> > (II) TDFX(0): Serial No: 8816158YA
> > (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xfc000000,0x2000000)
> > (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 12.55 MB
> > (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
> >         Screen to screen bit blits
> >         Solid filled rectangles
> >         8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles
> >         Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion
> >         Solid Lines
> >         Dashed Lines
> >         Offscreen Pixmaps
> >         Driver provided NonTEGlyphRenderer replacement
> >         Setting up tile and stipple cache:
> >                 6 128x128 slots
> > (==) TDFX(0): Backing store disabled
> > (==) TDFX(0): Silken mouse enabled
> > (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled
> > (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "PS/2"
> > (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer
> > (==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3
> > (**) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
> > (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver
> > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
> > Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
> 
>   you can comment out this line in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, I guess it
> does not matter anyway.
> 
>   also, check the HorizSync and VertRefresh for your monitor, I guess
> you should be able to get better resolution then 800x600 (see monitor
> docs).
> 
> 	erik
> 
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