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Re: Bug#82710: A version for testing, please.



Jon Nelson wrote:
> Package: libadns1
> Version: 1.0-3
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> I would very much like a version of adns for 'testing'.

It is completly pointless to file a bug against a package requesting
that it go into testing. I thought I'd point this out as I have seen
several bug reports like this lately. The maintainer of a package has
little control over whether the package goes into testing.

> I downloaded and recompiled for myself, but adns is so handy, I'd had
> to have potential users unaware of or unable to use it because it's not
> available for testing.  What gives?

http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html (search for adns):

* adns 1.0-4 (currently 1.0-3) (low)
  Maintainer: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org>
  only 1/10 days old

Packages do not go into testing until a minimum of 10 days after they
enter unstable, of course many other factors can keep them out as well,
including release critical bugs, build problems on other architectures,
or dependancies on packages that are not yet in testing. Now, if we look
at version 1.0-4's changelog, we see something truely amusing:

  adns (1.0-4) unstable; urgency=low
  
    * new upload since it does not show up in testing (Closes: #82710)
  
   -- Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org>  Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:03:23 +0100
  
  adns (1.0-3) unstable; urgency=low
  
    * closes bug #70945 (fixed upstream)
  
   -- Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org>  Tue,  7 Nov 2000 00:43:29 +0100

So when you filed this bug report on the 17th, adns version 1.0-3 had
been in unstable for about 10 days and was due to go into testing. Bernd
uploaded version 1.0-4 the next day (for no good reason). And 1.0-3 was
moved into testing right in the nick of time before 1.0-4 replaced it in
unstable.

So if you had filed your bug report one day earlier, Bernd's upload of -4
would have actually managed to keep adns _out_ of testing for another 10
days!

Moral of the story: Read the update_execuses if you want to know why
something is not in testing, and uploads to force something into testing
cannot work and can be rather counterproductive.

-- 
see shy jo



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