Re: installing pine

[ktb <x.y.f@home.com>]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:12:27PM -0800, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, ktb wrote:
> 
> >   You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
> > 	took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.
> 
> I have recently been trying mutt and, quite honestly, I have find mutt a
> lot clunkier than Pine.
> 
> One example: when you call up Pine for the first time in any home
> directory, Pine creates a default .pinerc and it is extremely easy to
> customize Pine from the Pine master menu.
> 
> In contrast, with mutt, no .muttrc is created automatically on first use
> and evidently there exists no easy to use configuration program (at least I
> have been unable to find one) as there is in Pine. It took me an hour of
> wading through documentation to figure out how to just get my 'From:'
> header to display my e-mail address. Apparently, I must do the same for
> each item of customization I want in mutt.
> 
> Another example: control and navigation keys are clearly displayed at the
> bottom of each Pine screen. For the equivalent functionality in mutt, I
> must press '?' and wade through a gadzillion keys displayed over multiple
> screens.
> 
> I would gladly convert to mutt from Pine just to get a more pure open
> source license. But, in my opinion, the clunkiness of mutt makes such a
> conversion quite formidable when I must still read my e-mail each day.
> 
> So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
> mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.
> 
> 
	As I said above it takes some configuring.  It isn't easy to
	learn.  Pine is.  As with most unix programs and the os itself
	some have easy installation and configuration and others don't.
	When I said "clunky" I was referring to usage not installation
	and configuration.  It took me a day to get mutt set up how I
	liked.  It took a couple more before I became comfortable with
	using the program itself.    
	
	If your serious about wanting to use mutt just set the directory
	mutt uses to pick up mail as a symbolic link to pine's mail
	directory.  In other words create the link "Mail" (mutt) pointing to
	"mail" (pine) in your home directory.  Doing this allows you to use
	both mailers with the same mail.  That way you can ease into
	mutt and still use pine until you become comfortable with it.
	kent

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