Re: Debian 2.2 crashes with Netscape..help
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 02:18:27PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> This isn't a crash, it's a system slowdown.
The 'VM' messages seem to hint to Virtual Memory problems, however.
I've read that the latest 2.2.x kernels have some VM problems.
> Almost certainly resulting
> from insufficient free memory. Netscape is a memory pig, and 32 MB RAM
> is almost certainly insufficient given the clients you're running --
> GNOME is also fairly intensive.
>
> Get more memory, get a better box, or ditch GNOME and/or Netscape. 96 -
> 128 MB is recommended for a typical current-generation workstation.
>
When I had only 16 MB on my laptop, I was able to run gnome and Netscape.
Gnome (or KDE) took 2 minutes to start and Netscape took 1 minute,
but I could (barely) use them. I found out that the combo
WindowMaker+Netscape produced a workable setup.
(I did upgraded it to 80 MB, though).
The real memory pig is X itself (on my laptop, it took about 8 MB of RSS).
I found out that using only 16 bits per pixel (that is 65535 colors)
helped a bit.
I also proceeded to reduce the number of running daemons, including
the number of getty, removing any unneeded services ( and on a Laptop this
means almost all ).
Anyway my desktop with 'only' 64 MB has no problems (I run Gnome,
netscape/mozilla, postgreSQL, apache, ... ).
Ciao.
--
FB
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