Hi, Eileen - Unpack the source w/ : dpkg-source -x pine4_4.21-1.dsc (make sure you have dpkg-dev installed for this.) Then cd into pine_4.21, where you run : debian/rules binary cd back to /usr/src/pine4 Then run: dpkg -i pine_4.21-1_i386.deb This should do the trick. Hope it helps... alpha -- ..-. ..- -.-. -.- .. -