Ray rote, > I know that when 2.2 installs in is emacs19. But of course you know that > as soon as you remove emacs RMS sends large men to your house to break >your knees. :) I like emacs but it is big. Yes, but in the true emacs anti-unix tradtion, they don't stop at doing one thing well, but instead try to do evertything. After breaking your knees, they tweak your nose, do your laundry, wash your dishes, and dislocate your elbow :) hawk --