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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 Rubbish5@aol.com wrote:

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> session save worked.  I ended up taking "panel" out of my Xsession file just 
> to see what would happen.  With the Gnome panel gone, logging off from icewm 
> let's the thing "gently" log off (when I get back to the console it was 
> perfectly aware that X was shuting down).  However, session save still isn't 
> working.

is 'panel' in your Xsession the only command you were giving to run
Gnome?  You need more than that.  IIRC it was recommended that you run you
windowmanager in the background and run /usr/bin/gnome-session as the
controlling process in the Xsession.  Something like this:

icewm &
exec gnome-session

This, however, may not be exactly right in these days of Helix Gnome and
stuff.  That's just what I've pulled from my brain.  I haven't thought
about it lately as gdm has options for starting a gnome session which work
fine for me.  You could then run a panel (if you don't already have
one) when you log in and save your session so it's always there in the
future.

> Where'd my Debian menu go

Make sure you've installed the 'menu' package, which is what actually
generates the Debian menu.  Then, in the panel preferences dialog in Gnome
make sure you have the Debian menu enabled.

> Is there a window manager you guys prefer?  I heard sawfish mentioned, where 
> do I get that?

I like Window Maker a whole lot.  I like the wide array of pretty useful
dockapps (great for monitoring system activity).  The look & feel is very
clean and uncluttered, with zillions of themes at wm.themes.org.  But what
*really* makes me love wmaker is the ability to assign keystrokes to
windows.  For example, say I have my mailer running on workspace 1, bound
to keystroke F1, and I go off to workspace 2 to do some coding for a
while.  Wmbiff notifies me of new email, and all I have to do is press
F1.  I'm moved to workspace 1 and my mailer is raised to the foreground
and given keyboard focus.  All with a single keystroke.  I would never
even consider using a window manager that didn't have this feature.  If
anybody knows one I'd check it out, but I haven't found it yet.

> (less/not so important question) How do I edit what programs are gettting 
> launched at boot (e.g. making X *not* load at boot for the graphical log in).

Check out the docs in /usr/share/doc/sysvinit.  Basically you want to
manipulate the programms started at the beginning of the runlevel that you
boot to (look for 'initdefault' in /etc/inittab).  If you're booting to
runlevel 2, you need to manipulate the files in /etc/rc2.d/.  These files
are symlinks to scripts in /etc/init.d.  If the symlink begins with 'K'
then the script is told to stop the given service.  If it begins with 'S'
then the service is started.  You want to remove S99xdm (or S99?dm really,
since you could have kdm, gdm, or wdm...).  Or, since you really don't
even need the graphical login app installed at all, you could just do an
apt-get remove xdm.

Enjoy.  HTH.
noah

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