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Re: Debian VS. Red Hat



-----Original Message-----
From: Will Trillich <will@serensoft.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Date: 09 September 2000 04:17
Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat


>On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:41:59PM +0100, Jeff Green wrote:
>> I resent the implication that we sysadmins ever think at all! And that
>> even if we did we had brains with which to accomplish the task.
>> Jeff
>> ( A sysadmin)
>
>:)
>
>> Incidentally the best reason I can think of for using Debian over RedHat
>> from a sysadmin's point of view is that security fixes on Debian arrive
>> very fast and are implemented into the distributions at once, keeping
>> your setup secure is normally a matter of issuing 2 commands a week:-
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get upgrade
>
>what reason would there be for a small one-horse sysadmin
>(with very small brain pan) to NOT have cron do something like
>
># m h  dom mo  dow
> 30 3    * *    1  apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade

Two reasons:
1 Our customers do not arrive at nice even intervals but mainly while we
have active live coverage and when the machines are busy it is a bad plan to
apt-get anything.

2 Because Cron very rarely reads the messages that new install scripts
write. Thus when the way that a package works has been changed I wouldn't
know what it had said. At other times you actually need to decide how to
respond and the option to just press "yes" may result in a machine that
doesn't allow remote logins and I am 11,000 miles away from some of my
servers.

My brain isvery small, however my computers' brains are smaller still!
>
>and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian)
>does red-hat have anything comparable?
>
Even if it did since the security fixes are sometimes posted months (or in
the case of one exploit attempted on one of our servers which had been
blocked well over a year previously on Debian but was still viable on Red
Hat) years later on Red Hat so it wouldn't be wrth doing.
>
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