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Re: Dialup Help!

On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 02:35:32PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> Nils asked about connecting some machines that serve Windows dialup clients
> from Linux: i.e., what kind of weird authentication are they likely to use?
> Joey answered that they most likely just use PAP.  Turns out he was right.

Help me understand why the absence of a shell login process on these
machines constrains them from using a simple exchange of username and
password. Is there no other implementation of ppp that can use

I have dialed up many an ISP with Dial-up Networking using this method, and
I doubt I was in a shell login process. (Or is this where I'm wrong?) PAP
has become popular, and ATT uses CHAP, but in principle is there anything
about not having a shell login that makes impossible an exchange of username
and password? Could it just be that on the system Nils has to connect to PAP
is what's been implemented?

(I don't mean to be quarrelsome; I'm just trying to understand.)

Bob Bernstein
at                          http://www.ruptured-duck.com
Esmond, R.I., USA

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