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RE: Su && Development Packages



> Why don't you get the package tasksel (for potato) and look for
> yourself?
> Besides, this is what the task-devel-* packages (again from potato) are
> for; they're probably the best answer to your question.
Thanks! That sounds like exactly what I needed.

> >And please don't give me ridiculous answers like "download the packages
> >the app requires".
> For most people this isn't a ridiculous answer; if you're compiling a
> program then (assuming some development experience) it's *common*
> *sense* to have the development packages associated with whatever that
> program depends on.
Right, but what we're not talking about compiling one specific program in
general. We're talking about compiling programs. One FAQ I saw actually
only said something to the effect of "get gcc" for "What do I need to 
compile programs"? That's horrendously absurd! gcc is not the only thing
you need to "compile programs".

> *ridiculous* (your word) to download all the development packages in
> Debian (grep-available lists 358 here) on the off-chance that someday
> they might want to compile code for a Beowulf cluster or a voxel
> renderer or what have you. You don't install everything: this is what
> dependencies are all about, and people writing their own software are
> expected to be intelligent enough to figure out what they need (see my
> next paragraph before you blow up).
Well Linux people tend to make too many assumptions about what the
user has on their system. I'd imagine it to be more likely with developers
who assume people are installing packaged versions that automatically
installs a basic set of development packages.

> Eventually (for woody, I believe) all packages will have to have
> Build-Depends: fields to pull in specialist development packages; in
> fact, this is in the current version of policy.
OK, but what about the software that isn't put up on Debian's site?

> You don't know much about development, do you? At least not if you mean
> "any program" as opposed to "any Debian source package".
I meant *most* programs. Just like the boxed sets of Linux will install
the packages you need for compiling most programs.

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