Doug Eck writes: > Is there a simple way to get -idle to override -persistent? I assume you mean 'idle' and 'persist'. The man page advises against using 'idle' and 'persist' together. I have not tried it, so I can't say what evil befalls those who do. However, 'demand' implies 'persist', and is used with 'idle'. Perhaps you should try 'demand'. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI