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Re: primenet.com rejects mail from ibm.net



On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 08:47:35PM -0700, J. Francois wrote:
> Take a look at:
> http://maps.vix.com/dul/
> 
> That should answer your question as to how and why your mail was blocked.
> HTH.

I see.  Here's a pithy quote from this guy...  "Loss of connectivity hurts
us all. Spam hurts us all even more." That's as ass-backwards a sentiment
as you can get.  "Loss of free speech hurts us all.  Hate speech hurts us
even more."  Ah, I understand now.

I despise spam in my inbox as much as anyone.  But this guy is a menace.

I am to be gagged because:
  1) I can't afford to pay for a nailed-up connection and a static IP.
  2) I choose to run my own MTA on my own machine.

Yep, that's perfectly sensible to me.  Let's all go back to using Windows
95, and relay all our mail through msn.net which runs Microsoft Exchange
Server.  We don't need to be running such services on our own machines.  We
don't need to be sending email straight to an MX host just like the RFC's
taught us to.  We need Big Brother, in the form of a "valid relay" to take
care of all our mail for us.  I'm sure we can trust him to not do any data
mining on that server.  Big Brother is our Friend.  Trust Big Brother.

The person who runs this DUL operation is being maliciously deceptive.

Yes, the DUL is a blacklist.

Being listed in the DUL *IS* shameful.

I am guilty by association.  It is irrelevant that I've never sent a piece
of unsolicited commercial email in my life.  It doesn't matter how
responsible a net citizen I am.  I am on the blacklist.  I am to be
penalized because of the misconduct of my neighbors.  Thanks, "gordonf",
for making the world a better place.  (Meanwhile, I think my random .sig
generator has come up with a sentiment with which he would agree
fully).

The proper place for spam control is at the mailbox level, where it can be
configured by the user, unless he knowingly and willingly gives permission
to his ISP to perform this service for him.

Please direct followups to me, not the list.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson              |     I've made up my mind.  Don't try to
Debian GNU/Linux                 |     confuse me with the facts.
branden@ecn.purdue.edu           |     -- Indiana Senator Earl Landgrebe
cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |

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