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Re: I have PINE .debs...



Yes, your are correct.

The .diff files would create an unauthorized derivative work.  

Like you said, I think I'm OK for now.  

If or when I get a CEASE and DESIST notice from UW, I will take the page
down.  Until then, someone must want this stuff.

NatePuri
Certified Law Student
& Debian GNU/Linux Monk
McGeorge School of Law
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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

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> On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
> 
> > I understand that debian cannot distribute these packages in binary format
> > as part of its distribution.  I believe that this is because debian is a
> > legal organization who's policy is not to distribute non-GPL software.
> 
> Debian has no policy against non-GPL software.  Apache is part of the
> Debian distro, and it is not GPLed.  Perl is not GPLed.  There are many
> standard debian packages that are not GPLed.
> 
> >    "Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual
> >    agreement:
> >    (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns;
> >    (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concerns;
> >    (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or
> >    non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the
> >    packaged distribution."
> 
> I don't see any mention of redistribution of binaries here.
> 
> Read the following segment from the Pine license:
> - ---
> Although the above trademark and copyright restrictions do not convey the
> right to redistribute derivative works, the University of Washington
> encourages unrestricted distribution of patch files which can be applied
> to the University of Washington Pine distribution.  
>  
> If this software is modified for local use, please denote this on all
> modified versions of the software by appending the letter "L" to the
> current version number and by enumerating the changes in the release notes
> and associated documentation. 
> - ---
> 
> You can't re-distribute dirivative works.  That's key because an official
> Debian package would require a slightly modified binary in order to comply
> with the Debian filesystem guidelines.  You can modify it for LOCAL USE,
> in which case you need to append L to the version number.  Making
> something available for download on the internet hardly constitues local
> use.
> 
> However, since your Pine package has not been patched, you're operating
> within the license.  I am just giving you the reasons why Debian can't
> distribute it.  George Bonser stated on this list that it is possible to
> have the University of Washington approve a modified binary release, and
> that could work for you, if you wanted to make your Pine binary comply
> with the debian filesystem standards and still remain legal.  But Debian
> can't make that a part of the actual distribution because it violates the
> Debian Free Software Guidelines.  I don't remember why it was removed from
> the non-free section, though a reason was given at the time.
> 
> noah
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