But I'm about ready to try microsofts netplayer instead of realplayer. I'll take one last desperate try of installing the X stuff from slink, but this has got to stop. When the network feed get's patchy, rvplayer brings down X. Not merely brings it down, but with enough corruption that X can't restart short of a reboot. I've never had a non-hardware crash, but I've had to reboot four times so far this morning. grrr. rick --