Britton writes: > I have problems starting ppp as a normal user also that I have not been > able to cure by mucking with permissiont in /etc and elsewhere. Put your users in the 'dip' group and set the permissions and ownership of /etc/chatscripts thusly: drwx--x--- root dip /etc/chatscripts/ The other ppp files are correct as installed. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI