When I start X with XDM and log in the 'debian banner' stays in the background of my desktop. I have to drag the xterm window around to erase it. This did not happen in 1.3.1. (the banner was cleared before the window manager started). It does not seem to matter which window manager I use (tried fwvm, fvwm2 and fvwm95). _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com