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Julián Cardona wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm installing Debian (hamm) in two machines, a 386SX with
> 4 MB RAM and 80 HD and a 486 with 22 MB RAM and 323 HD.
> I was very pleased to see the two new (?) preselections,
> a basic system that fits in about 40 MB of disk, and a
> standard system that occupies about 120 MB. Great, that
> was precisely what I needed!
>
> Sorrowfully, I had problems with both installations. In
> the basic system, libc5 conflicted with libc6 and I was
> left with a system without manpages, among other things.
> In the standard system I got errors in a couple of
> packages (modutils and bibtex, I think -I could check it-).
> The standard system also tried to replace my passwords
> and group files and asked me twice to select a dictionary
> (american/british) ... and keeps asking me that *every*
> time I run dselect.
If you have a true hamm system, you don't need libc5 to get manpages. The
package 'man-db' has the man command and there is a version of this in the
hamm directory for libc6. If its asking for libc5 then you are trying to
install the older bo version. The are several packages (like manpages) that
provide man pages, but are not dependent on the system's lib.
Whenever you install a package over the same or older version of itself, it
will give you the option of keeping your old config files or overwriting
them with the version in the package you are trying to install. This is why
it is asking you whether to overwrite your passwd and group files.
If deselect keeps asking the same response every time, then its probably
failing during the install of those packages. The package remains
uninstalled, or 'broken' in deselect's term, and when you rerun deselect it
automatically attempts to install packages that remain 'broken' from the
last time. When you run Install use Control-S and Control-Q to pause the
screen display so you can read the messages that dselect is printing. The
messages may explain why the install of those packages is failing.
>
> Of course the resulting systems are usable and work fine,
> but I'd like to get rid of those little annoyances ...
> How can I:
>
> a. Install manpages (which depends on things that depend
> on libc5) and libc6 on the basic system? I suppose it's
> not a problem, since the standard system probably does
> something like that. BTW, something in perl also
> depended on libc5, but dselect seemed to work fine (?).
You should be trying to install 'man-db_2.3.10-65.deb'.
This is the libc6 version (available from ftp.debian.org).
>
> b. Tell dselect passwords, group and dictionary are
> alive and well and don't need to be reconfigured
> every time? This trouble I had also in a machine I
> debianized a month ago (after freeze, before deep
> freeze).
As mentioned above, its probably asking you every time because it can't
sucessfully install/configure the packages. Are there any error messages
displayed when dselect installs them? What does 'dpkg --status
name_of_package_.deb' say? For example, check the stats of the american
dictionary with 'dpkg --status iamerican'. Status should be 'install ok
installed'.
> Besides, I might do some testing on the installation
> procedures if that helps ... I mean, I can keep installing
> on these two machines from scratch and reporting errors if
> that's of any use. I think an absolutely clean and smooth
> installation might do a very good first impression on every
> new user, and the basic/standard preselections are a big
> step in that direction.
>
> Other than that, I have only the most positive things to
> say about Debian 2.0, the system and the community (develpers
> and users) behind it. Thanx a lot for your *excelent* work!
>
> JulianC
>
Make sure you don't mix bo and hamm disks/packages together. If you are
installing with hamm boot/root/bin disks then use only packages from the
hamm directory tree (Example: ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main).
--
Ed
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