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Hamish
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From: Fuzzy <fuzzy@ns.asarian.org>
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(could you forward this to the list for me since I am unable to 
to post to the list, but do receive incoming mail from the list.
thanks again. have a good holiday... 
					Fuzzy)


I am subscribed at fuzzy@ns.asarian.org and do receive email from the
list, (except those I post myself).  all posts I post fail to appear,
but I don't get errors from your SMTP mail server rejecting them, they
simply vanish into the ether. 

my last successfull post was on 29 Dec 97, a followup to someone
else post. 

Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:11:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Fuzzy <fuzzy@ns.asarian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Oh yeah!

I'm attemting to install "offical" debian 1.3.1 (BO) from the lsl.com
cd-roms + the non-free directories I ftpd to a ez135 cart.

currently I'm trying to configure a ISA/plug-and-pray soundcard.

I have IRQs 9 and 10 available for it, and IO except for 0x0330
thats in use by the scsi card all the addresses it wants, DMAs
0 1 3 all appear to be available. 

pnpdump does recognise the card and offer a few sets of possible
addresses and irqs. but I an unfamiliar with the this approach
and don't know how to take pnpdumps output and make it into a 
configuration file for isapnp. the soundblaster card we had
used irq 10, IO 220&300 and DMA 1 and 6. this one appears
to only use 1 DMA but 3 sets of IO addresses. 

seperately, I want to install X windows. the video card is 
a S3 ViRGE chipset with 4meg video ram. I attempted installing
the xbase+servers-s3v plus what ever depended on it with dselect.
it appeared to have installed corectly, but startx doesnt do
anything?? during the installation process, it went into graphics 
mode and for configuring the server parameters. and the display turned
gray with a X cursor. the defualt dimensions are too small tho, 
I like to back up from 1024x768 to 800x600 @ 256 if thats possible. 
I was unable to get the middle putton on the 3button mouse to be
recognised by the setup for X windows. the mouse itself does have a
switch on the bottom of the mouse that says MS and PC as possible
choices. it arrived set at MS.  


I'm wondering if there is problem between my server and list
processers server... we've sent this post twice and still have not
seen it in the incoming mail. 

don't know which list processer you're using, so I don't know how to
query it to ask about "metoo" type settings. 

have you seen this post, is my outgoing email going out?  we do get
incoming email from the list, but don't see our own, or any replys to
it :(. 

are we missing packages??

dpkg --list reports the following are installed

				Fuzzy
				Sys Admin, ASARian.org


<cut/pasted from early posting to debian-users that vanished twice>

ii  xbase           3.3-3          Local clients and configuration required by
ii  xfnt75          3.3-3          75dpi fonts for X servers
ii  xfntbase        3.3-3          Standard fonts for X servers
ii  xfntpex         3.3-3          Minimal fonts for PEX support in Xservers
ii  xfntscl         3.3-3          Scalable fonts for X servers
ii  xinput          1.1.1-1        Runtime configuration and test of XInput dev
ii  xkeycaps        2.29-3         Graphical front-end to xmodmap.
ii  xlib6           3.3-3          Shared libraries required by X clients
ii  xloadimage      4.1-2          Graphics file viewer under X11
ii  xpaste          1.1-4          A program to display the contents of the pri
ii  xserver-s3v     3.3-3          X server for S3 ViRGE and ViRGE/VX-based gra
ii  xserver-vga16   3.3-3          X server for VGA graphics cards and Xserver
ii  xzoom           0.3-1          magnify part of X display, with fast updates

<content of original vanished post to debian-users>


>From fuzzy@ns.asarian.org Wed Dec 31 12:58:51 1997
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 17:22:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Fuzzy <fuzzy@ns.asarian.org>
Subject: sound and IRQ/IO addr/card bios base addresses


it annoys me that the salesman made a point repeatedly that even
though its a PnP device other "non-M$" OSes would be able to configure
it. I'm pretty sure its because its a PnP device that I'm having all
these problems. 

with the ne2k clone, it required running dos from a floppy and then
runing its setup dos based utility. it then wrote the fact that I
wanted to the 10base2 port vs the default 10baseT port and the
appropriate IRQ and IO addresses. the setup utility then writes this
into NVRAM so it remembers it until changed, it also keeps a copy of
the data on the setup diskette in a file.

pnpdump does detect it and offer setup choices.  would its output help
diagnose having to set the thing up? according to the sales people its
a SB compatable. maybe generating a module for sound and SB specs,
then using isapnp to set the card to those specs would work? can we
tell the kernel NOT to load the module unless we run insmod for it
explicitly? obviously, the card would have to be configured by isapnp
before the module was loaded that tried to interact with it at
specific IRQs and IO addresses.

we copied the output pnpdump below and well as the contents of
/proc/pci .... obviously the video keyboard mouse(/dev/ttyS0) ide0
floppy-controller and scsi-host adapter all work or we wouldnt be able
to get information to tell you ;). 

as we've said we are unfamiliar with the order of things in Debian. 
in slackware /etc/rc.d/rc.local is the last 1 time only rc. file to
run and thats were you do things that depend on other things already
having been done. is there is an analogue to /etc/rc.d/rc.local in
Debian? 

in the mean time we'll try to puzzle out how pnpdump & isapnp work to
configure the card. 

take care ... thanks again...
					
					a confuzed,
					fuzzy
					

I belive these are currently the IRQs IOs DMAs:

IRQ	device		DMA	Base	IO Ports

0	timer				0040-005f
1	keyboard			0060-006f
2	casade		
3	/dev/ttyS1 (ext modem)		02f8-02ff	
4	/dev/ttyS0 (mouse)		03f8-03ff
5	/dev/ttyS2 (APC BackUPS Pro)	03d8-03ef
6 	floppy cntlr     		03f0-03f5,03f7-03f7
7	lp				0378-037f	(using polling??) 	
8	rtc
9	(sound?)	(1)		???		can we use these? 
10	(sound?)	(1)	        ???		can we use these?
11	aha1542		5   	0xdc00	0330-0333
12	eth0			0xd800	
13	math error
14	ide0			0xfff0	01f0-01f7,03f6-03f6
15	ide1				0170-0177,????	not currently active  

	vga+	   (vidram)     0xf8000000	03c0-03df
	usb			0xd000
	cascade		4

/proc/ioports

0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
01f0-01f7 : ide0
02f8-02ff : serial(set)
0330-0333 : aha1542
0378-037f : lp
03c0-03df : vga+
03e8-03ef : serial(set)
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
03f8-03ff : serial(set)

/proc/interrupts

 0:      51095   timer
 1:        524   keyboard
 2:          0   cascade
 4:         12 + serial
 8:          1 + rtc
11:         25   aha1542
13:          1   math error
14:       9971 + ide0

/proc/pci

PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  11, function  0:
    VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ViRGE (rev 6).
      Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255.
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf8000000.
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
    Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
      Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  
      I/O at 0xd800.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  3:
    Bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 1).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=7113.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  
  Bus  0, device   7, function  2:
    USB Controller: Intel Unknown device (rev 1).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=7112.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  
      I/O at 0xd000.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
    IDE interface: Intel Unknown device (rev 1).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=7111.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
      I/O at 0xfff0.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
    ISA bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 1).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=7110.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  No bursts.  
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
    Host bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 1).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=7100.
      Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  

<output of pnpdump>

# $Id: pnpdump.c,v 1.8 1997/01/14 21:05:35 fox Exp $
# This is free software, see the sources for details.
# This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK
# 
# For details of this file format, see isapnp.conf(5)
#
# Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER
#
# Trying port address 0203
# Board 1 has serial identifier 81 ff ff ff ff 25 09 14 3e

# (DEBUG)
(READPORT 0x0203)
(ISOLATE)
(IDENTIFY *)

# Card 1: (serial identifier 81 ff ff ff ff 25 09 14 3e)
# OPT0925 Serial No -1 [checksum 81]
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.0
# ANSI string -->BTC 1815   Ver 1.1<--
#
# Logical device id PNP0600
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE OPT0925/-1 (LD 0
#     ANSI string -->IDE CD<--

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

#     Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0376
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0376
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0376))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0170
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0170
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0170))
#       IRQ 15.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 15 (MODE +E)))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x036e
#             Maximum IO base address 0x036e
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x036e))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0168
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0168
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0168))
#       IRQ 10.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E)))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x03ee
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f6
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x03ee))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x01e8
#             Maximum IO base address 0x01f0
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x01e8))
#       IRQ 11.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 11 (MODE +E)))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x036e
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03fe
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x036e))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0168
#             Maximum IO base address 0x01f8
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0168))
#       IRQ 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 or 15.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))

#     End dependent functions
# (ACT Y)
))
#
# Logical device id OPT9250
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE OPT0925/-1 (LD 1
#     ANSI string -->OPTi Audio 16<--

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

#     Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0240
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0530
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0604
#             IO base alignment 212 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0530))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0380
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 12
# (IO 2 (BASE 0x0380))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0f8d
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0f8d
#             IO base alignment 1 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 3 (BASE 0x0f8d))
#       IRQ 5, 7 or 10.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
#       First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
#       Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0240
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0530
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0604
#             IO base alignment 212 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0530))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0380
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 12
# (IO 2 (BASE 0x0380))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0f0d
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0f0d
#             IO base alignment 1 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 3 (BASE 0x0f0d))
#       IRQ 5, 7 or 10.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
#       First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
#       Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0240
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0530
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0ff0
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0530))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0380
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 12
# (IO 2 (BASE 0x0380))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0f8d
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0f8d
#             IO base alignment 1 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 3 (BASE 0x0f8d))
#       IRQ 5, 7 or 10.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
#       First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0240
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0530
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0ff0
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0530))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0380
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 12
# (IO 2 (BASE 0x0380))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0f0d
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0f0d
#             IO base alignment 1 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 3 (BASE 0x0f0d))
#       IRQ 5, 7 or 10.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
#       First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0240
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0530
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0ff0
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0530))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0380
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 12
# (IO 2 (BASE 0x0380))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0f0d
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0fed
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 3 (BASE 0x0f0d))
#       IRQ 5, 7, 9, 10 or 11.
#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
#       First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
#       Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0))

#     End dependent functions
# (ACT Y)
))
#
# Logical device id PNPb02f
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE OPT0925/-1 (LD 2
#     ANSI string -->Game Port<--
#     Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#         Minimum IO base address 0x0200
#         Maximum IO base address 0x0207
#         IO base alignment 1 bytes
#         Number of IO addresses required: 1
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0200))
# (ACT Y)
))
#
# Logical device id OPT0002
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE OPT0925/-1 (LD 3
#     ANSI string -->MPU401<--
#     Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#         Minimum IO base address 0x0300
#         Maximum IO base address 0x0330
#         IO base alignment 16 bytes
#         Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0300))
#     IRQ 5, 7, 9 or 10.
#         High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
# (ACT Y)
))
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