It just occurred to me that I haven't set anything for PPP to tell it an initial route to the world, other than including the nameserver IP's in /etc. Is there something I should be setting in /etc/options_out? rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to email@example.com . Trouble? e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org .