Re: My final words on Debian Inc.
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
> > Until the copyright is assigned, they get the same international
> > protection as any other copyright holder, and the work is still
> > "theirs."
> >
> > As an anarchist, surely you understand that all property is a
> > creature of the state that creates and recognizes it.
>
> As an anarco-capitalist (minarchist if you wanna get technical) I
> understand the state does not inherently own everything. In fact it
> owns nothing. (No matter what it may think)
that's right. you loony libertarians just refuse to admit that property
"rights" are granted BY the State. Without a State to maintain
(enforce) legal fictions there is no such thing as property.
> Even though you've heard me mention the term, I don't believe in
> collectism. (certainly not if it is forced) But what Debian IS, is a
> communal project that is 'owned' (if you can consider it property)
> by the developers as a whole.
if you truly believe stuff like that, then why are you attempting to
infringe on our rights by telling us what to do with our property?
oh, that's right, i forgot: one of the benefits of subscribing to
lunatic fringe political/economic theories is that you don't have to
remain consistent within your ideological or ethical frame-work. you
can chop and change whenever you like...in fact, the more insane and
outrageous the inconsistency, the better.
> I'm not anti commercialism! I own my own damn business for god
> stakes! But THAT IS NOT WHAT DEBIAN IS ABOUT.
debian is many things to many people.
who the hell are you to define what debian is and isn't about?
> If you are the wiser just tell me "Dave you're insane. Here's the law,
> and some cases that prove otherwise" and I'll be quiet.
Dave, you're insane. you've already admitted that you're an
anarcho-capitalist. that's good enough evidence for me.
> But please don't disreguard what I've said based purely on your
> disagreement with my poiltics. I feel I've raised some very valid
> points.
you've found one person who (at least partially) agrees with you or
considers your points valid. i don't think i've seen anyone else
agreeing with you. Now normally I think that democracy and popular
decisions are for sheep, but i've worked with people in debian for
long enough to have a great deal of respect for the intelligence and
competence of the debian team.
(one of the reasons i like debian is that there are some very smart
people involved, making some very smart decisions).
craig
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