I bet your problem is that one of that package that you installed killed your /etc/inetd.conf file. At least that's what happened to me last week. I never did figure out who did it. Check to see if it's there. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to email@example.com . Trouble? e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org .