RE: bi

[Vadim Vygonets <vadik@cs.huji.ac.il>]

On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:

> Sorry.  I was watching these vi msgs go back and forth and had to jump in and
> make it worse.  I think everyone should use whatever they want to.  I agree
> 100% about emacs.  I have better things to do than to memorize all that crap.
> That's why I use the GUI version, menu's.

Editors whould use keys, not mouse.  I use both emacs and vi, so I can
say: to edit with vi, you need the keys iaxX<ESC>"dd"u.(dot) and maybe
(if you have a really dumb tty) hjkl.  To change a config file, you
don't need to use all the power of vi.  Well, sometimes I change
config files with ed, although I don't think of myself as one who
*knows* ed.

> I think the original reason for this endless thread was to discuss the best
> editor for a base install.  One of the points I tried to get across is that a
> newbie won't be able to use any editor that isn't either similar to an M$
> editor (not edlin) or that doesn't have a menu of some kind, such as ae.

When I saw Unix first time, I was taught vi.  5 minutes lesson + brief
explanation of man(1).  Put 5 lines explaining vi behaviour in the
installation guide, and that will be enough.

Vadik.

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