It appears that the site hosting the AfterStep pages is down-- AfterStep being the NeXTSTEP like window manager taken one step beyond bowman. Anyway; anyone have a mirror of the site available? Or the source to the latest version? Or a binary? Also; is it relatively easy to create debian packages? If so, I'd consider putting together a 'install this and you'll have a usable, relatively powerful, bowman/afterstep based X environment' package. thanks, b.bum