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Bug#429314: texlive-context: missing dependency on lmodern



Florent Rougon <f.rougon@free.fr> wrote:

> Sanjoy Mahajan <sanjoy@mrao.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I know: I maintain Ubuntu edgy backports of the Debian unstable/Ubuntu
>> gutsy packages for texlive 2007, including 'context'.
>
> So, why are you reporting a bug against texlive-context, since you know
> it is deprecated?

Because context doesn't have the bug, but texlive-context has it.  And I
think it should be even serious.

> Today, the recommended tool is usually aptitude, though some people
> recommend synaptic for really basic users such as Mom. Personally, I've
> never tried synaptic and I've used dselect since my first day with
> Debian. dselect is quite usable if you're able to read the available
> tutorials and the keystrokes section in the online help.
>
> apt-get is a relatively low-level tool that doesn't always do what is
> good for newbies. aptitude has a similar command-line interface that can
> replace apt-get for most uses.

I agree, but you must admit that a couple of years ago, apt-get was
generally recommended to people, and aptitude was something new.  At
least that's whay I learned.  This had also the effect that people put
stuff into Recommends that should rather be in Suggests, and then people
started arguing against installing Recommends by default...

>> I think lmodern fits in that category because without it most of
>> ConTeXt's functionality is missing.
>
> 1. If ConTeXt cannot be used with other fonts than lmodern, it's an
>    upstream bug, IMHO. 

It can AFAIK, but maybe using CM requires a lot of manual intervention
(Postscript fonts should be easy).

> If this is not the case, then Recommends would be
>    appropriate (see the definition of Recommends in the same Policy
>    Manual).

If ConTeXt uses the Latin Modern fonts by default, the package should
depend on them.  Just as a package which provides LaTeX needs to depend
on a package which provides the Computer Modern fonts IMO, even if you
can use others.

> 2. Anyway, I fail to see what you want us to do, since the context
>    package currently in unstable *does* depend on lmodern. Please
>    clarify.

I suggest that we keep the bug open as a warning and information for
users. 

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)



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