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Re: Bug#392517: Please make texlive-doc-en a Recommends



Hi all!

On Don, 12 Okt 2006, Frank Küster wrote:
> retitle 392517 texlive-doc-en is too big and too comprehensive for a default install

About the splitting, see below. Concerning the bug: You are right. So I
will change the relation from depends to suggests? or recommends? What
do you suggest/recommend for now, without splitting!!?!?

> Yes, you are right.  I wasn't aware of the size of doc-en.  I think we

I started collecting infos on these packages, here is what I found and
what I propose as an idea (I did NOT say that I will implement it ;-)

texlive-doc-en-base
--------------------
Size: 21964k
  FAQ-en -- The FAQ-en package.
  	5796
  components-of-TeX -- The components-of-TeX package.
  	  48
	  missing pdf/dvi file, old??
  comprehensive -- Comprehensive list of LaTeX comprehensive.
  		symbols-a4.pdf	All symbols
  	3496
  gentle -- A Gentle Intorudction to TeX.
  	 460
  help -- The help package.
  	 564
	 	general help material, links, refs to books
  impatient -- TeX for the Impatient
  	2540
		The book itself
  l2tabu-english -- English Translation of Obsolete packages and commands.
  	 388
  latex2e-html -- The latex2e-html package.
  	1028
		html version of help, good
  lshort-english -- A (Not So) Short Introduction to LaTeX2e.
  	1996
  mathmode -- The mathmode package.
  	2588
		Voss: mathmode document
  metafont-for-beginners -- The metafont-for-beginners package.
  	  52
  metafp -- Some Experiences in Running METAFONT and MetaPost.
  	 204
  metapost-examples -- Example drawings using metapost.
  	 156
  tamethebeast -- TamethebeaST
  	1484
		bibtex documentation
  tds -- The TeX Directory Structure documentation.
  	 540
  tex-refs -- TeX reference documentation
  	 624
	 	tex reference in html format


texlive-doc-en-extra:
---------------------
Size: 29740k
  Type1fonts -- The Type1fonts package.
  	 876
  amslatex-primer -- The amslatex-primer package.
  	  72
  catalogue -- A catalogue of what's available on CTAN.
  	8772
  dtxtut -- Tutorial on writing .dtx and .ins files
  	 364
  firststeps -- The firststeps package.
  	 100
	 	examples from the book ...
  guide-to-latex -- The guide-to-latex package.
  	 856
	 	material from the book "Guide To LaTeX, 4th Edition"
  knuth -- No caption.
  	1788
		various knuth stuff (trip/trap, web, errata)
  latex-graphics-companion -- The latex-graphics-companion package.
  	1800
		examples from The LaTeX Graphics Companion
  latex-web-companion -- The latex-web-companion package.
  		examples/exercises
  	2392
  make-tex-work -- The make-tex-work package.
  	2672
		book: _Making TeX Work_
  math-into-latex -- The math-into-latex package.
  	  84
		math nto latex book, missing pdf, examples
  pstricks-tutorial -- The pstricks-tutorial package.
  	5076
  tlc2 -- The tlc2 package.
  	3580
		book TLC2
  truetype -- How to use TrueType fonts with teTeX.
  	 668
  webguide -- Brief Guide to LaTeX Tools for Web publishing.
  	 424
  wp-conv -- FAQ on converters between (La)TeX and PC-Textprocessors.
  	 216



> Moreover, it seems suboptimal to me that the package installs symlinks
> for each file from /usr/share/texlive-doc/english/somedir  to the
> individual files below /usr/share/texlive-doc-en/english.  Couldn't
> there simply be one symlink
> 
> /usr/share/texlive-doc/english -> ../texlive-doc/english

In theory there could be one. But all the documentation links are
generated in the same way, not only for texlive-doc-en, but also all
other documentation files. And with these other files I cannot link
directoies because that would create the same link several times in
different packages. So I decided to link every single file (If you take
a look at changes.packaging you can follow my odyssee about the doc
files).

> or alternatively we drop the english subdirectory from
> /usr/share/texlive-doc/, have the individual directories directly in
> there, and multiple symlinks 
> 
> /usr/share/texlive-doc/english/foo -> ../texlive-doc/foo

No, because we have also frensh, german, ....

Best wishes

Norbert

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