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Bug#368968: [Frank Küster] Re: Fixing teTeX's license violation in Debian; new license for cs stuff?

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Hi Petr,

sorry for answering so late - I was on holiday, then at work again and
again away, and just didn't find time.

Petr Olsak <petr@olsak.net> wrote:

>> As a short-term solution, is it possible to just take the three ini
>> files from the current version and install them along with the old files
>> already included in teTeX-3.0?
> Roughly speaking: Yes.

Thanks for the clarifications.

>> The second question:  Have you come to a conclusion regarding the future
>> license of the cs stuff?  As I understood it, you weren't aware of the
>> problems of your mixed license (GPL + renaming clause) and needed some
>> thinking (probably without being yelled at on the mailing lists...).
> I plan to keep the meaning of my licesne in csplain.ini the same but to
> change the text in csplain.ini file in order to the word "GPL" will be not
> mentioned. Simply speaking: You can do anything with csplain code but you
> cannot expect any warranty from me and you cannot distribute the
> csplain.ini, csfonts.tex, il2code.tex, t1code.tex, hyphen.lan and
> plaina4.tex files in changed form.

You mean, unless I rename them, correct? 

I strongly suggest to not invent a new license text.  I think the LPPL
is just what you need, although it allows modification without renaming
in the case that a prominent notice is printed that it is a different
system.  If you find that not strict enough, I suggest to use a wording
like Knuth did (or even better, add a "After renaming, you may freely
use, distribute and/or modify the files").  Note, however, that
"renaming" is not as clear as one might think on a web2c-based TeX
system: Just moving a file around in a TEXMF tree may have the desired
effect that it is not found when using cstex, while a renamed file will
still be found with an appropriate line in TEXMF/aliases.

Do you have a timeline for a new release?  Later this year, there will
be a new TeXlive version (and a new Debian release which contains these
files in teTeX and TeXlive packages).  It would be a pity if the csplain
things would have to be excluded from Debian (we are currently not
allowed to distribute them).

Regards, Frank

By the way, may I forward your and my mail to the Debian Bugtracking
system, in order to archive this discussion?

Anyway, many thanks for providing a localized TeX system!

Regards, Frank
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

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Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

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