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Re: Bug#253124: cyrtexinfo format in fmtutil.in



Hi Frank, hi Vladimir!

On Son, 16 Okt 2005, Vladimir Volovich wrote:
>    * texinfo formats are not necessary anymore, since texi2* do not use
>      the formats, and the new teTeX will not need to generate texinfo formats.
>      Thus bug #253124 will not be fixed. (Closes: #253124)
> 
> i used cyrtexinfo format at least to allow russian hyphenation for texinfo.
> 
> and the comment that "texi2* do not use the formats..." is not true
> since one can pass via environment variables which executable to call
> instead of "tex" or "pdftex" (in this case i would set it to "cyrtexinfo").
> 
> to address initial concerns, i suggest to move the cyrtxinf-related
> config line for the fmtutil.cnf to the texinfo package or just to
> comment out the line for cyrtxinf in fmtutil.cnf, so it will not
> create a problem if texinfo is not installed.

On Mon, 17 Okt 2005, Thomas Esser wrote:
> > i used cyrtexinfo format at least to allow russian hyphenation for texinfo.
> 
> That is a good reason. I have reverted the line (commented out) in
> my fmtutil.in.


At the moment the situation is like this (in Debian!)
. texinfo does not provide cyrtexinfo, nor the cyrtxinf.ini
. tetex and texlive(-langcyrillic) DO provide cyrtxinf.ini
. tetex and texlive packages ship cyrtexinfo lines for fmtutil but
  commented out

There are the following problems:
. if we activate the cyrtexinfo lines in the fmtutil config file, we
  have to depend on texinfo (both texlive and tetex)
. if we leave it commented out we can suggest texinfo

Interestingly, I found in the tetex-base changelog the following entry:

 * tetex-base depends on texinfo because of cyrtxinf (closes: #61990)

So this already has been a problem.

I guess we should come to one of the following solutions (for Debian):
. either texinfo takes over the cyrtxinf.ini file 
  I am not sure wether this is a good idea, since cyrtxinf.ini is *not*
  the end of the story, there are other files probably necessary for
  this.
. or tetex-base and texlive depend on texinfo again
  what were the reasons to drop this dependency?

Frank, I guess this is post-unstable upload, but what is your opinion?

Best wishes

Norbert

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