Bug#264043: trying to get to the core of the jadetex vs etex issue
On 11.08.04 Adam Di Carlo (aph@debian.org) wrote:
> Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de> writes:
Hi,
> > I think #253098 is a mixture of different bugs. First they speak
> > about wrong usage of tail and mktemp not regarding $TMPDIR and later
> > about the incompatible change in tetex.
>
> Yes. That is *all* #253098 should be about. I'm downgrading the bug
> to normal severity.
>
> That means that if tetex-bin 2.0.2-17 is breaking jadetex install,
> I don't have any bugs filed on my package to that effect. I
> haven't yet been able to reproduce the error.
>
Should have been easy to reproduce. Note that is only visible on a
fresh installation (like pbuilder), cause during an upgrade latex.fmt
is not removed.
> > No, if we create again latex.fmt and pdflatex.fmt that checkfmt
> > commands from jadetex 3.13-1 will not fail, so we don't have to set
> > these restrictions.
>
> Well, that would be great, and I can create the conflicts.
>
Upload done (unfortunately with urgency=low). Go ahead.
> Lets step back a second. The only reason I do 'checkfmt latex.fmt'
> (etc) is that I wanted it to be obvious if fmtutil is breaking
> because of problems that tetex-bin might be having in producing
> memory dumps which are prerequisites for building a jadetex memory
> dump.
>
Understood.
> I can easily modify my routine to check for latex.fmt or
> latex.efmt, or only the later, or whatever. However, as I
> understand it, for this check to work properly, it must match what
> we're using in fmtutil.cnf.
>
And as latex.fmt is back (due to #263296) you don't have to change
anything.
> I guess the real question in my mind is what fmtutil.cnf needs to look
> like for JadeTeX to work properly, but minimizing any radical changes
> so Debian can proceed with the freeze. Right now it is like so:
>
> jadetex tex language.dat &latex jadetex.ini
> pdfjadetex pdftex language.dat &pdflatex pdfjadetex.ini
>
If you don't want to use e-TeX do it that way. I've read only some
articles in Usenet, that Knuth TeX is depreciated since beginning of
2003. Hence we decided to switch to e-TeX, cause I'm afraid, that
next Debian won't come out before 2006...
> Given this fmtutil.cnf, my understanding is that it is indeed true
> that prerequesites for building jadetex are latex.fmt, pdftex.fmt and
> pdflatex.fmt . What I'm hearing from Hilmar is that these plain TeX
> memory dumps are no longer produced (althought they can be hanging
> around), because in tetex-bin, LaTeX switched to eTeX.
>
LaTeX switched to e-TeX. Plain TeX still uses tex.fmt. Same for
pdftex.fmt. We build again latex.fmt, but latex.efmt is used, when
calling LaTeX.
H.
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