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Re: is HAL going to be removed for the next stable?



Hello List,

what about Xorg and HAL ?

Jerome

Pedro Ribeiro wrote:
On 4 March 2010 03:01, Andreas Marschke <xxtjaxx@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am Donnerstag 04 März 2010 02:47:11 schrieb Pedro Ribeiro:
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone call tell me if there are any plans for the
next stable regarding HAL. Is Squeeze going to be shipped with HAL
disabled by default?

Also, there is this mess going on now with devicekit-power / upower
and devicekit-disks / udisks, which is pretty much alpha software.

I guess these two issues should delay Squeeze for some more?

I already got word from the Debian GNOME maintainer that Squeeze is
probably going to ship 2.30, which should remove most HAL
dependencies.


Regards,
Pedro

Sorry for my unkowledge but how else than through HAL should one be able to
talk to hardware in an bstracted easy way?
If its actually removed (which I personally doubt will happen) should others
like KDE manage hardware since they depend on it through solid afaik?

Cheers,

Andreas Marschke.


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Hello,

HAL has been deprecated and slated for removal for more than a year
now. The reason is that HAL is considered jack of all trades, master
of none, and hence a big pain in the a** to maintain. Note that this
is a HAL maintainers decision and opinion - I do not necessarily agree
with this, but its almost done now, so no turning back.

udev is taking over most of the HAL's functions and the disk and power
management and being moved to udisk and upower respectively, with
minor functions in udev-utils.
You can find out more here:
http://wiki.debian.org/HALRemoval

The problem with all this, is as said above, although udev is stable
and trustworthy, upower and udisks have a long way to go. Hence my
question, as I'm worried that this might delay Squeeze for a while.
GNOME 2.30 should have no HAL dependency, but I don't know about KDE.

Regards,
Pedro



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