Hi You are dead right it does! I can do the second bit thou that he suggests and that seems to work. Well I can log in anyway and the letters seem to be what they should be. a test ina minute with a word processor see what does what exactly. John -- Sent using Sylpheed. Secure, stable and micro$oft free. GnomeICU 92791912 aMSN williamhgates2001@msn.com