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Re: Gnome big toe icon



Mario:

You are on the right track with your statement about Gnome
being an environment manager.  I think that it is actually
it has a session manager built into it, and no real window
manager, although Sawfish is becoming the "default" choice
for window manager because it works well with existing
Gnome applets and utilities.

I'd like to give my suggestion for a "Gnome Big Toe" Installation:
I'm still only comfortable with the dselect tool, so after
the default installation of Debian (with the wonderfully icky
twm window manager), I set about installing as much Gnome
stuff as I thought I would need.

In Optional Packages in section utils, I selected:
gmc

In Optional Packages in section x11, I selected:
gnome-applet,  gnome-bin, gnome-control-center, gnome-core,
gnome-help, gnome-panel, gnome-session, gnome-terminal, sawfish-gnome

Now, here I *must* say that I depend on dselect's conflict resolution
manager to fill in the missing required libraries, binaries, and other
Gnome stuff (things like oaf and gnome-help and many others).  I never
can remember what is completely necessary.  If you are running low
on space, try to avoid installing the "suggested" items.

Like some users have already mentioned, the Gnome-Panel is
the package with the Windows-like start menu, and easily-installable
panel items.

I'm not really sure what your preferred method of installation is.  I know
that the method described above may be that of a novice, but it gives
you some ideas as to what might be necessary.    I also have the
following in my .xsession and .xinitrc file

        exec gnome-session

When your X session starts, the above will make the Gnome session
manager start, which has a long initialization routine that it performs.
I really like gmc (Gnome Midnight Commander, I think).  It performs
quite well on my memory or speed challenged machines.  Nautilus
is an option, but it crashed a lot on the Ultra 30 that I had it running on.

-Sageev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Sharp" <andy@netfall.com>
To: <debian-sparc@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Gnome big toe icon


> Mario Lombardo wrote:
> >
> > I thought Gnome was just an environment not a window manager.  Is this
true?
> >
> > >Mario Lombardo <mario@alienscience.com> writes:
> > >
> > >>  When I look at some people's machines (Intel based), I see they have
> > >>  this window manager with a Gnome big toe icon in the start-like menu
> > >>  thing at the lower-left of the screen.  I guess the whole strip at
> > >>  the bottom is some kind of a file manager?  How do I get that for my
> > >>  Sparc?  It looks cool.  All I'm getting now is the typical icewm
> > >>  start menu, etc.
> > >
> > >Instal the gnome packages and setup gnome as your wm.
>
> That was my first impulse to say, but I decided on second thought to
> be a wise ass.  On third thought, try this
>
> # apt-get install sawmill-gnome
> # apt-get install task-gnome-apps
>
> I hope you have some free disk and memory.  You're gonna need it.  All
> for a big toe.
>
> a
>
>
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