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Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> --On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 12:14 am +0200 "Christian Meder"
> <meder@isr.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: 
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:05:25AM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
> >> >>>>> "Brian" == Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> writes:
> >> 
> >>     Brian> Could I get some official word on which architectures wish
> >>     Brian> to be included in the 2.1 release of Debian?  Thanks!
> >> 
> >> I don't think sparc is ready to go, though Johnnie or Eric may see it
> >> differently.
> >> 
> > I'm neither Johnnie nor Eric but I think the basic tools on sparc are
> > stabilizing (compiler, glibc2.1, kernel). I don't think Sparc is ready
> > for a full blown quality release like i386.
> > 
> > Does it make sense to go for a stabilized developer snapshot, i.e.
> > a Sparc port which has base, required, standard and parts of the
> > optional packages (sources based on the slink dist of i386) ? 
> > Kind of a official _development_ release with a big disclaimer about
> > the development character of the port. Powerpc probably would be a
> > second candidate for such a release.
> > 
> > 2 reasons in favour:
> > 
> > * we ease the work of the CD producers to provide a _reasonable_ 
> > (installable) snapshot of the ports
> > 
> We don't have installable CDs, do we?


> Our disks don't work on all models... although our netboot is better.

I will work on the boot-floppies soonish

> AFAICS, there are still serious bugs in X - and also the 2.0 series kernels
> don't work well on SS2s, at least - but the 2.1 series kernels don't work at
> all with our bash.

I know there are bugs left. But we get probably 4 to 6 weeks to fix at 
least some of them.

> > * if there's a stabilized snapshot newbies will get (hopefully) a
> > softer introduction in the wonders of the Linux-Sparc/Powerpc/Arm/...
> world
> I see your argument.  I'm worried that we might be perceived as giving the
> message that debian-sparc is ready for primetime, which, alas, it is not..

Right. I would like to see a freeze on Sparc the result of which we should
call _development_ snapshot instead of release to distinguish them.

Remember the article of Alan Cox recently on slashdot.

* Release early to get other people jump on the wagon.

The ports tend to drag along because newbies don't know where to start.



Christian Meder, email: meder@isr.uni-stuttgart.de
What's the railroad to me ?
I never go to see
Where it ends.
It fills a few hollows,
And makes banks for the swallows, 
It sets the sand a-blowing,
And the blackberries a-growing.
                      (Henry David Thoreau)

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