Re: Big5 Âë±àÂ뷶Χ

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Sorry for the late reply, and for replying in English..

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: On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 03:06:55PM +0000, ÀÁÀÁÁÔÈË wrote:
: >                              ^^^^ Õâ¸öÓ¦¸ÃÊÇ 0xfe :p
: > HKSCS Ò²ÓÐÓõ½ 0xFA - 0xFE °¡..
: ¶àл :-))
: ºÜ±§Ç¸£¬ÎÒûÓкÜ×Ðϸ trace ¸÷λ×î½üµÄÌÖÂÛ£¬ÎÒÏëÇëÎʼ¸¸öÎÊÌâ:
: 1. Debian potato ÖÐµÄ zh_TW.Big5 locale ÊDzÉÓà Big5 »¹ÊÇ Big5+ ? 
:    Èç¹ûÊÇ Big5 µÄ»°£¬ÄÇÄ¿Ç° Big5+ ÓÐûÓнøÈë potato ÖУ¿

The default Big5 locale in potato says that the range is 0xA1-0xF9 ..
that needs to be changed.

Also, there is a conversion table in gconv-modules that needs to be
modified for Big5+ as well, if we need to support Big5+.

Which creates the problem: the work I have done to support HKSCS still
uses the name "BIG5" as its encoding. That's not compatible with Big5+ ..
Therefore, I think there is a need to have a "zh_TW.Big5", "zh_TW.Big5p"
and "zh_HK.Big5-HK", as suggested below.

: 2. ÏÖ³ÉµÄ X locale ÔÚÖ§Ô® Big5+ ÓÐûÓÐÎÊÌ⣿ÎÒµÄÒâ˼ÊÇ£¬ÒÔÇ°¸ø
:    Big5 ÓÃµÄ X locale ÏÖÔÚÌ×ÓÃÁË Big5+, ÍêÈ«²»ÓÃÐÞ¸ÄÂð£¿

At least in XLC_LOCALE, the lines byte1, byte2, mb_conversion and 
ct_conversion needs to be changed.

: 3. ÄúÃÇÏÖÔÚÓÃʲô×ÖÐÍÀ´ÏÔʾ Big5+ ÀïÍ·µÄËùÓÐ×Ö£¿
: ÖÁÓÚ GNU/Linux ÊÇ·ñÓ¦¸ÃÖ§Ô® Big5+ ? ÎÒÈÏΪÓÐÐèÒª£¬±Ø¾¹¿ÉÒÔÖ§Ô®µÃÔ½¶àÔ½
: ºÃ :-)) locale ÃûÄØ£¿ÎÒ¾õµÃ¿ÉÒÔ¶¨³É zh_TW.Big5p, ²»ÒªÓë zh_TW.Big5 Ò»
: Ñù£¬ÒòΪ±Ø¾¹ encoding ÒѲ»ÓëÔ­À´µÄÒ»ÑùÁË¡£¶øÇÒÎÒµ£ÐÄʹÓà zh_TW.Big5+
: ÕâÑùµÄÃû×Ó£¬Õâ¸ö "+" ÔÚ locale ÃûÖÐÊÇ·ñΪºÏ·¨×ÖÔª£¿ÒÔ¼°£¬ zh_TW.Big5plus
: ÓÖÏÔµÃÌ«³¤ÁË£¬ËùÒÔÎÒ½¨ÒéÓÃÕâ¸öÃû×Ö¡£

Agreed.

[snip]
: Òò´Ë£¬ÔÚ´ËÎÒÓÐÒ»¸ö½¨Ò飬ÒòΪ Big5 Óë Big5+ ÕæµÄ²»Ò»Ñù£¬ËùÒÔÃû³Æ»¹ÊÇÒª
: Çø·Öһϡ£

Agreed; and there is a need to do this, as mentioned above.

: Èç¹û zh_HK locale ÕæµÄ²ÉÓà Big5+ µÄ»°£¬ÔòÎÒÏ£ÍûÆä locale
: Ãû×îºÃ¶¨³É zh_HK.Big5p or some thing like that. »¹ÓÐÒ»¸öÎÊÌâÊÇ£¬Èç¹û
: zh_HK ÓõÄÊÇ modify ¹ýµÄ Big5+, ÔòÓ¦¸Ã¿¼Âǽ«ËüµÄÃû×ÖÁíÍⶨ£¬ÒÔÓ롸Õý
: ×Ú¡¹µÄ Big5+ Óб𡣵«ÊÇ£¬Èç¹û´Ë modify ¹ýµÄ Big5+ ʵ¼ÊÉÏ¿ÉÒÔÓë Big5+
: ÏàÈÝ£¬ÇÒ°üº¬¸ü¹ã£¬ÔòÎÒÃÇΪºÎ²»Ö±½ÓʹÓÃ´Ë modify µÄ°æ±¾¾ÍºÃ£¿²»±ØÔÙÓÃ
: ¡¸Õý×Ú¡¹µÄ Big5+ ÁË¡£ÎÒµÄÒâ˼ÊÇ£¬ÎÒÃÇ¿ÉÒÔ³ÃÏÖÔÚ Big5+ ±ê×¼ÔÚ×ÔÓÉÈíÌå
: ÊÀ½çÖÐδȷÁ¢Ö®Ç°£¬ÏȽ¨Á¢ÎÒÃÇÕâ±ßµÄ±ê×¼£¬È»ºóÆäËû distribution ¿ÉÒÔ½ø
: ¶ø·ÂЧ£¬¹ýÒ»Õó×Óºó´ËÒ»¡¸²»³ÉÎÄ¡¹µÄ±ê×¼¾Í¿ÉÒÔÈ·Á¢ÁË¡£

err .. but I'm not sure about the difference between Big5+ and HKSCS ..

: > zh_HK.Big5-HKSCS? ËƺõÊdz¤ÁËÒ»µã, ²»¹ý glibc µÄ iconv modules ÊÇÒÔ±àÂëµÄÃû
: > ³Æ (¼´ locale Ãû³ÆµãºÅÖ®ºóµÄ²¿·Ý) À´Çø±ð²»Í¬µÄ modules, ËùÒÔ¿ÉÄÜÓÐÐèÒª½Ð×ö
: > Big5-HKSCS.
: ÕâÀïÎÒ½¨Ò飬 zh_TW.Big5p Óë zh_HK.Big5.... ¿ÉÒԸɴà¾ÍÓÃͬһ¸ö encoding,
: ¾ÍÈçÎÒÇ°ÃæËù˵£¬¾Íºó¾Í¶¨´Ë encoding Ãû³ÆΪ Big5p, ¿ÉÒÔÊ¡²»ÉÙÂé·³¡£µ«Òò
: ΪÎÒ²»ÏþµÃ Big5-HKSCS Óë Big5+ ±¾ÖÊÉϲîÔÚÄÇÀÒò´Ë²»È·¶¨ÕâÑù¶¨ÊÇ·ñÊʵ±£¬
: ¹Ê´¿½¨Ò飬Çë´ó¼ÒÌÖÂÛ :-))

There is an HKSCS mapping table available at
http://www.digital21.gov.hk/chi/hkscs/

I have used it to build the HKSCS gconv module.

I couldn't find any Big5+ tables online though. :o
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