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Re: policy change is needed to keep debian secure



Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> ...
> People request new versions in
> stable all the time for little reason more than the fact that they have
> higher version numbers.  I get harrassed by upstreams for not pushing their
> releases into stable, telling me that backporting is stupid and I should
> trust them implicitly never to have regressions in new releases. 

When the release is part of a stable branch that is no longer undergoing
active development, i can understand them wanting this.  I'm not saying
you should "trust them implicitly never to have regressions", but
maintaining stable branches is not sexy (to use your word - i've never
understood why anything that's not human could be called so ;-) and most
upstream developers would rather make the minimal changes required to
make the stable branch secure.

> Similarly,
> I have received criticisms from users whose systems have been severely
> broken by new upstream versions of software.

For what it's worth, as a Debian stable user (i really have no business
being on this list, since i'm not a DD :-), i'd rather bear the risk of
possible breakage than have an insecure system.  That is, i'd rather
have a mostly-/partially-working system that has all known security
flaws fixed quickly than a stable system that is known not to be secure.

> Threads like this one which take on faith that the solution is obvious, and
> seem to exist only to release steam, don't help us move forward.  It isn't
> obvious, and in this particular case there is an ongoing dialog with the
> Mozilla developers about the problems with the current arrangement and how
> to fix it.

Thanks for your efforts Matt.  Some of us appreciate them.  ;-)

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