Oi You two. Sort it out offline once and for all, will you? I've getting thoroughly pissed off with the debian-* mailing lists; a month or two ago d-secure was actively pro-spam, now there's nothing but off- topic crap. Makes me wonder why I bother reading it, looking for things to respond to, maybe even see if I've got something helpful to contribute - becuase when all I see is flames & spam, I'm not interested. <threadplonk> ~Tim -- <http://spodzone.org.uk/>