* "Jürgen A. Erhard" | I'd see this as: non-ssl telnet is no lock. SSH1 is 1 lock. SSH2 is | also 1 lock, but a much better (and more expensive) one. ;-) Well, you have Kerberos, you have SRP. Both non-SSL, but still as strong as SSH or better. And you have OTP which protects the password (but not the data). -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.