Re: Opinions: Debian for (bio)process engineering?
Hi all
Many thanks for these helpful replies, they certainly gave me a great
entry to start finding my feet!
Andreas, will keep a look out for those BoFs at DC15.
Markos, this is brilliant, thank you!
I have done nothing regarding effluent monitoring, other than getting
frustrated at the existing methods of effluent monitoring, which is
expensive, time consuming and ridiculous environmentally - we're
talking, at it's worst, Chrome-6 and boiling concentrated sulphuric
acid!. I am a biochemist and chemist by training and have only in the
last few years started getting used to how (chemical) engineers do
things, while doing my PhD. My adventures in wastewater is only since
2012. So I still feel very intimated by yet another field to get to
know, but this (dev stuff) is the next step for me!
In addition to not having done anything yet, I am very interested in
monitoring wastewater like one would a bioprocess - analysing,
monitoring and modelling the products one could produce for value,
we're calling it wastewater biorefineries [1]. In this approach,
measuring total Carbon, Nitrogen and Phosphate, for example, is not
enough, I want to know what compounds do they occur as?
And to make it even more difficult, I want this to be do-able in
backyards, shacks, out in the sticks - which is where my BioPunk,
DIY-bio angle comes in (Bryan). So open, free, easily accessible. A
lot of this has to do with developing the wet chemistry, but the
Debian side is important too - as I think Markos understands well.
There's some existing methods that can be used; GC, enzyme
biosensors... which can be adapted for on-line, all the time, remotely
managed. Something like HPLC is too much effort, and frankly most of
the things we do in labs currently is just too complicated. I think we
have it back to front.
Then there's FTIR-ATR spectroscopy, that I think has potential. When I
investigated it some years ago I got annoyed at how the whole thing
functioned (we did have a poorly maintained, state-of-the-art machine,
which didn't help - too many knobs of which none worked reliably), and
I needed a reference model. I think Markos's respirometer might help
me here, just with the approach used.
Anyways, loooong story. I am busy with deadlines, so might only get
into this again at DebConf, but am very grateful for all the input!!
best regards
Bernelle
[1] - http://merahmas.co.za/wastewater-biorefineries
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Markos <markos@c2o.pro.br> wrote:
> Hi Bernelle,
>
> Very goog your interest in wastewater monitoring.
>
> I have also tried to do something in this area.
>
> http://www.c2o.pro.br/en/index.html
>
> And I have used Debian.
>
> And here's a respirometer using Tcl, Arduino and Debian:
>
> http://www.c2o.pro.br/en/automation/x73.html
>
> And you? What you have done about effluent monitoring?
>
> Best Regards,
> Markos
>
>
> On 13-07-2015 09:07, Bernelle Verster wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a proper noob, new even to coding in general, and, very very new
>> to Debian. (So if I make a mistake/follow poor etiquette, please
>> educate me)
>>
>> I'm currently checking out the debi-chem, Debian science project and
>> debian-med places, in anticipation of going to DebConf15!
>>
>> I am a bioprocess engineer, and looking to get into better process
>> control and analysis for bioprocesses, specifically wastewater
>> treatment (with some mods there), and fungal processes (aka solid
>> substrate fermentation), and these blends don't really have what I'm
>> looking for. I'm not really sure what I'm looking for yet either, but
>> data-acquisition is a start [1]
>>
>> I have seen the engineering packages on debi-science [2]. I am not
>> sure if these as a rough grouping are the sort of engineering I'm
>> doing, or more 'IT' engineering - opinions on joining this or not?
>>
>> My question is, is there some process engineering stuff out there I
>> can join? And if not, how do I go about starting something?
>>
>> And lastly, where would these queries best be directed to?
>>
>> best regards
>> Bernelle Verster (indiebio on IRC)
>>
>> [1] - http://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/dataacquisition
>> [2] - http://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/engineering
>>
>>
>>
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