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Re: no networking in riscv-qemu... use pppd?

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
> 2017-04-19 22:11 GMT+02:00 Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org>:
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:02:11AM +0200, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
> >> 2017-04-19 8:42 GMT+02:00 Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org>:
> >
> > [RISC-V ISA manual]
> >> > The (older) version that was published on the RISC-V website
> >> > unfortunately doesn't have a DFSG-free license.  The license
> >> > situation has been sorted out in the meantime and the current
> >> > working draft is provided under a DFSG-free license (CC-BY 4.0).
> >> > It is work-in-progress though and undergoing significant changes,
> >> > so IMHO packaging it right now isn't that useful.
> >>
> >> Yeah, and there was the issue of the trademark, was that sorted out?
> >
> > That is still being worked on. A proposal for a public trademark
> > license (which is intended to replace the RISC-V foundation's
> > current "trademark usage" text) has been submitted to the
> > foundation's executive director, who in turn is discussing the
> > proposal with the foundation's lawyers.
> I see.  Would this prevent from packaging it (at least the manual)?

I am not a lawyer so I can only describe my layman's understanding
which might well be wrong.  To my understanding there shouldn't be
a trademark problem in packaging the official RISC-V ISA manual
using "RISC-V" as part of the package name, as the official RISC-V
manual is published by the RISC-V trademark owner respectively is
named using the trademark with the approval of the trademark owner,
and AIUI referring to a trademarked "product" by the trademark is
permitted use of a trademark.

What could possibly be a problem with regard to trademark law is
packaging a modified version and using the trademark to name this
modified version, e.g. call it the "RISC-V ISA manual" when it in
fact is a "some-architecture-that-is-mostly-but-not-really-RISC-V
ISA manual".  That's just the difference between a copyright and a
trademark license: a copyright license can allow distribution of
modified versions, but one might have to choose a different name
for the modified version to avoid a trademark violation.  This is
btw. exactly the reason why we for a long time had iceweasel
instead of firefox in Debian.

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sowie der Weitergabe meiner personenbezogenen Daten für Zwecke der
Werbung sowie der Markt- oder Meinungsforschung.

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