Hi Paul, Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org> (2025-05-28): > On 27-05-2025 15:59, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > I'm still ambivalent about this, and I still don't want to push in > > either direction. I'll just mention that reviewing, merging, and > > also adjusting… is all done as far as I'm concerned. > > > > The remaining question is whether that's for trixie or forky. > > I'm assuming that if we were to accept this, we'd enlarge the key > package set. Let's not do that this late in the cycle. To be honest I've tried to answer questions as best as I could when I got asked whether dropping this or that package from the key package set would be OK, but I've never wondered how it is built. A quick look at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/key_packages.yaml.cgi suggests all desktop tasks are there: kibi@tokyo:~$ awk '/^- reason: task-.*desktop / { print $3}' key_packages.yaml|sort -u task-cinnamon-desktop task-cyrillic-desktop task-gnome-desktop task-gnome-flashback-desktop task-kde-desktop task-lxde-desktop task-lxqt-desktop task-mate-desktop task-xfce-desktop (8 choices currently offered by pkgsel calling tasksel, plus Cyrillic support for some reason.) I'm not immediately understanding how those get in there based on skimming over https://release.debian.org/key-packages.html and https://salsa.debian.org/qa/udd/-/blob/master/scripts/update-key-packages.pl but I'd be very fine with *not* enlarging the key package set, and having no specific “protection” against autoremovals for those two prospective new desktop environments. If desktop tasks were indeed injected manually in the past, I suppose it would be sufficient not to inject the new ones into the DB during this cycle, and delay that until forky development opens? If that's more complicated and/or generally just too late, that's also fine with me. (Here I'm merely trying to understand the key packages picture a little better, not trying to push harder.) Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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